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<blockquote data-quote="Tim McCulloch" data-source="post: 41350" data-attributes="member: 67">Re: Is iLive the biggest/best digital for the money?Brandon, I recall your discussion about the Versarray over on the PSW forums a couple of years ago.&nbsp; I posted a couple of replies that, IIRC, basically said &quot;you&#039;re buying a rig that you will quickly outgrow.&quot;&nbsp; I&#039;m not posting today to say &quot;I told you so&quot; mostly because you aren&#039;t at that point, yet... but you will be.&nbsp; Evan&#039;s observations about the VR112 are spot on.&nbsp; When the VR112 came out I really *wanted* it to be something it isn&#039;t - a versatile box that scales up well.&nbsp; It&#039;s limited in what it can do because it doesn&#039;t scale well and because the ribbon HF is too fragile to sustain continued operation at the top 20% of it&#039;s design.&nbsp; Add in the inability to make &quot;J&quot; arrays without having extremely granular processing and power and we find the Versarray isn&#039;t very versatile.&nbsp; It can do some things well; the rest not so much or at all.My question is &quot;do you want to make the same decision about a console?&quot; The iLive isn&#039;t a bad desk but it isn&#039;t a *desired* desk among BEs.&nbsp; I&#039;ve said before that if the owner or his staff are the exclusive operators of a piece, then buy whatever makes you happy.&nbsp; If others are using that item, buy what THEY prefer.&nbsp; Remember these are TOOLS that we capitalists use to get more money, not a really big stereo system that benefits the ego of the owner.If I were in your situation, I&#039;d strongly consider the M7 simply because visiting BEs are very likely to have their show on a USB stick.&nbsp; It will make their day easier which will make your day easier if they don&#039;t need to learn a new console.&nbsp; But again, if your situation is such that you or your crew operate the desk 98% of the time you should buy whatever makes your balance sheet work and your ears happy.Have fun, happy mixing.Tim Mcps.&nbsp; FWIW, we looked at the VR112, VR212, EAW KF730 &amp; 760, Adamson Y-Axis, Nexo Geo S and several others.&nbsp; We bought VerTec 4889 and then added VerTec 4887.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tim McCulloch, post: 41350, member: 67"] Re: Is iLive the biggest/best digital for the money? Brandon, I recall your discussion about the Versarray over on the PSW forums a couple of years ago. I posted a couple of replies that, IIRC, basically said "you're buying a rig that you will quickly outgrow." I'm not posting today to say "I told you so" mostly because you aren't at that point, yet... but you will be. Evan's observations about the VR112 are spot on. When the VR112 came out I really *wanted* it to be something it isn't - a versatile box that scales up well. It's limited in what it can do because it doesn't scale well and because the ribbon HF is too fragile to sustain continued operation at the top 20% of it's design. Add in the inability to make "J" arrays without having extremely granular processing and power and we find the Versarray isn't very versatile. It can do some things well; the rest not so much or at all. My question is "do you want to make the same decision about a console?" The iLive isn't a bad desk but it isn't a *desired* desk among BEs. I've said before that if the owner or his staff are the exclusive operators of a piece, then buy whatever makes you happy. If others are using that item, buy what THEY prefer. Remember these are TOOLS that we capitalists use to get more money, not a really big stereo system that benefits the ego of the owner. If I were in your situation, I'd strongly consider the M7 simply because visiting BEs are very likely to have their show on a USB stick. It will make their day easier which will make your day easier if they don't need to learn a new console. But again, if your situation is such that you or your crew operate the desk 98% of the time you should buy whatever makes your balance sheet work and your ears happy. Have fun, happy mixing. Tim Mc ps. FWIW, we looked at the VR112, VR212, EAW KF730 & 760, Adamson Y-Axis, Nexo Geo S and several others. We bought VerTec 4889 and then added VerTec 4887. [/QUOTE]

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