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Re: Is upgrading my solution, or is there another option?

Tim,

Thanks for the response. I'll start from the top and work my way down.

I guess to start out, say for instance on a 12' long x 18' wide dance floor. If we don't play outdoors, most of the event centers we play in for our private gigs have drywall and either linoleum or wood flooring. Everything sounds fine and good until you get to the length end of the dance floor, then all you hear is mostly guitar and vocals. I've tried turning the guitars down on the PA and the amp side; and then drums and keyboard become more dominant and everything else is faintly heard. Everything sounds great in sound check, but as soon as you get bodies in there, something just happens to the sound. I assume that the bodies are absorbing certain kinds of sounds and frequencies over others.

Did you have a planet in mind? Ha. Well we already have spot monitors which work great, and the idea is to not gain any more equipment. I don't have a giant band van unfortunately, so between my truck and my brother's SUV, we managed to get a nice system down where we can still transport the band and the equipment to private gigs.

The idea was to sell them and use the money to procure new speakers, but if you think something can be done with the current speakers, then obviously I will rethink selling them.

I'd say if anything the guitars carry nicely through the hall, so it gets the least reinforcement at about 25-30 on the fader, and at about a level 5 on the amps.

The drums muddy up in a hall without reinforcement, so they actually get the most at about 10-15 on the faders. We currently use the Bonham/Johns technique for my drummer, since that's his personal preference, and it seems to work the best.

The bass does get muddy as well, but I think that's attributed to my bassist's legato playing style. He gets between 20-25 on the fader, and about a level 5 on the amp. His is a direct out though, as opposed to being mic'ed.

It's a configuration that after 2 years of trial and error seems to work the best.

Thanks,
Nick

<blockquote data-quote="Nick Vezmar" data-source="post: 83761" data-attributes="member: 4110">Re: Is upgrading my solution, or is there another option?Tim,Thanks for the response. I&#039;ll start from the top and work my way down.I guess to start out, say for instance on a 12&#039; long x 18&#039; wide dance floor. If we don&#039;t play outdoors, most of the event centers we play in for our private gigs have drywall and either linoleum or wood flooring. Everything sounds fine and good until you get to the length end of the dance floor, then all you hear is mostly guitar and vocals. I&#039;ve tried turning the guitars down on the PA and the amp side; and then drums and keyboard become more dominant and everything else is faintly heard. Everything sounds great in sound check, but as soon as you get bodies in there, something just happens to the sound. I assume that the bodies are absorbing certain kinds of sounds and frequencies over others.Did you have a planet in mind? Ha. Well we already have spot monitors which work great, and the idea is to not gain any more equipment. I don&#039;t have a giant band van unfortunately, so between my truck and my brother&#039;s SUV, we managed to get a nice system down where we can still transport the band and the equipment to private gigs.The idea was to sell them and use the money to procure new speakers, but if you think something can be done with the current speakers, then obviously I will rethink selling them.I&#039;d say if anything the guitars carry nicely through the hall, so it gets the least reinforcement at about 25-30 on the fader, and at about a level 5 on the amps.The drums muddy up in a hall without reinforcement, so they actually get the most at about 10-15 on the faders. We currently use the Bonham/Johns technique for my drummer, since that&#039;s his personal preference, and it seems to work the best.The bass does get muddy as well, but I think that&#039;s attributed to my bassist&#039;s legato playing style. He gets between 20-25 on the fader, and about a level 5 on the amp. His is a direct out though, as opposed to being mic&#039;ed.It&#039;s a configuration that after 2 years of trial and error seems to work the best.Thanks,Nick</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nick Vezmar, post: 83761, member: 4110"] Re: Is upgrading my solution, or is there another option? Tim, Thanks for the response. I'll start from the top and work my way down. I guess to start out, say for instance on a 12' long x 18' wide dance floor. If we don't play outdoors, most of the event centers we play in for our private gigs have drywall and either linoleum or wood flooring. Everything sounds fine and good until you get to the length end of the dance floor, then all you hear is mostly guitar and vocals. I've tried turning the guitars down on the PA and the amp side; and then drums and keyboard become more dominant and everything else is faintly heard. Everything sounds great in sound check, but as soon as you get bodies in there, something just happens to the sound. I assume that the bodies are absorbing certain kinds of sounds and frequencies over others. Did you have a planet in mind? Ha. Well we already have spot monitors which work great, and the idea is to not gain any more equipment. I don't have a giant band van unfortunately, so between my truck and my brother's SUV, we managed to get a nice system down where we can still transport the band and the equipment to private gigs. The idea was to sell them and use the money to procure new speakers, but if you think something can be done with the current speakers, then obviously I will rethink selling them. I'd say if anything the guitars carry nicely through the hall, so it gets the least reinforcement at about 25-30 on the fader, and at about a level 5 on the amps. The drums muddy up in a hall without reinforcement, so they actually get the most at about 10-15 on the faders. We currently use the Bonham/Johns technique for my drummer, since that's his personal preference, and it seems to work the best. The bass does get muddy as well, but I think that's attributed to my bassist's legato playing style. He gets between 20-25 on the fader, and about a level 5 on the amp. His is a direct out though, as opposed to being mic'ed. It's a configuration that after 2 years of trial and error seems to work the best. Thanks, Nick [/QUOTE]

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