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<blockquote data-quote="Tim McCulloch" data-source="post: 83906" data-attributes="member: 67">Re: Is upgrading my solution, or is there another option?A drum key is $10 or less.&nbsp; Good gates are 20x that price, used.If you were providing for other bands I&#039;d say get the gates, but since you&#039;re in a position to work directly with the drummer I think that is a better fix.&nbsp; Acoustic solutions for acoustic problems®.... looking back on your first post, though, I see you guys do mostly covers so gates will probably be needed in addition to better drum tuning.Here&#039;s the real deal, though.&nbsp; Putting the whole band through the THUD pa and getting acceptable results is possible for an experienced mixerperson IF he or she has the full cooperation of the band regarding levels and placement of instrument amps and the acoustic levels produced by the drummer.&nbsp; I got by for the Nashville act (5 piece band in a festival tent) because I used the band&#039;s on-stage levels as my primary source of volume and tone (treated it as one big fat input I couldn&#039;t change) and brought up the things that needed more level or the coverage provided by the pa.&nbsp; It was obviously in limit from first note to last, too, and mixing against the limiter was something I had to get used to.&nbsp; On top of that, I made extensive use of compression at the input strip (digital mixer).&nbsp; This was for a potential audience area that might hold 200 people.After following this thread and getting a better idea of your needs and desires, I no longer think the Mackies will be satisfactory.&nbsp; You need subs and you need tops that have enough acoustic output to get over the stage level of the band.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tim McCulloch, post: 83906, member: 67"] Re: Is upgrading my solution, or is there another option? A drum key is $10 or less. Good gates are 20x that price, used. If you were providing for other bands I'd say get the gates, but since you're in a position to work directly with the drummer I think that is a better fix. Acoustic solutions for acoustic problems®.... looking back on your first post, though, I see you guys do mostly covers so gates will probably be needed in addition to better drum tuning. Here's the real deal, though. Putting the whole band through the THUD pa and getting acceptable results is possible for an experienced mixerperson IF he or she has the full cooperation of the band regarding levels and placement of instrument amps and the acoustic levels produced by the drummer. I got by for the Nashville act (5 piece band in a festival tent) because I used the band's on-stage levels as my primary source of volume and tone (treated it as one big fat input I couldn't change) and brought up the things that needed more level or the coverage provided by the pa. It was obviously in limit from first note to last, too, and mixing against the limiter was something I had to get used to. On top of that, I made extensive use of compression at the input strip (digital mixer). This was for a potential audience area that might hold 200 people. After following this thread and getting a better idea of your needs and desires, I no longer think the Mackies will be satisfactory. You need subs and you need tops that have enough acoustic output to get over the stage level of the band. [/QUOTE]

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