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<blockquote data-quote="Kevin Maxwell" data-source="post: 212015" data-attributes="member: 321"><p>Where are you located? Maybe someone local to you can stop by and lend a hand.</p><p></p><p>Are the horns mic-ed? I have been surprised at how some people can’t hear themselves on a stage. I have had trumpet players bring a clear Plexiglas disk that they put on the mic to reflect the sound of the trumpet back to themselves. I have seen sax players use the same thing but it doesn’t make any sense to me because the mic is aimed down and not reflecting back to the player. So you may get them to play softer if you can put a piece of Plexiglas in front of them reflecting back their sound to them.</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind one sound recommendation, just because there is a mic on something doesn’t mean it has to be turned up. Sometimes a player will think they have to play loud because they don’t have a mic on their instrument. Some instrumentalists can only play loud, they were never taught how to play properly. There have been many times I have wanted a device to put on a horn that will decrease the volume without affecting the tonality, I don’t know of one that exists. </p><p></p><p>I am curious what your sound system consists of and how it is configured. There are a lot of tricks and techniques for good or at least better sound and that is why there are books and schools that teach this stuff. A forum post isn’t going to answer all of you questions, but can help with specific questions.</p><p></p><p>You are trying to do sound reinforcement. That means in most places, especially like the one you are in that some things will carry without any amplification and some things will need amplification. You need to blend the two together. That is one reason why when someone asks me to record the output from the mixer (the House mix) I tell them no because it will sound out of balance. An instrument that is loud on stage and doesn’t need to be up in the house mix will then be missing from the recording.</p><p></p><p>At one outdoor concert we were setting up for the bass player and the guitar player showed up before we were done setting up and plugged in and started to wail away. This was a Doo-Wop group. We told them to just play loud enough so that they could hear themselves and let us bring it up to the level it needed to be for the audience. And remarkably they listened and did that. After the show all of the band members came up to us and said “we never heard ourselves so well”. Their groupies came up to us and said "they never sounded so good". If the musicians cooperate it can make a huge difference.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kevin Maxwell, post: 212015, member: 321"] Where are you located? Maybe someone local to you can stop by and lend a hand. Are the horns mic-ed? I have been surprised at how some people can’t hear themselves on a stage. I have had trumpet players bring a clear Plexiglas disk that they put on the mic to reflect the sound of the trumpet back to themselves. I have seen sax players use the same thing but it doesn’t make any sense to me because the mic is aimed down and not reflecting back to the player. So you may get them to play softer if you can put a piece of Plexiglas in front of them reflecting back their sound to them. Keep in mind one sound recommendation, just because there is a mic on something doesn’t mean it has to be turned up. Sometimes a player will think they have to play loud because they don’t have a mic on their instrument. Some instrumentalists can only play loud, they were never taught how to play properly. There have been many times I have wanted a device to put on a horn that will decrease the volume without affecting the tonality, I don’t know of one that exists. I am curious what your sound system consists of and how it is configured. There are a lot of tricks and techniques for good or at least better sound and that is why there are books and schools that teach this stuff. A forum post isn’t going to answer all of you questions, but can help with specific questions. You are trying to do sound reinforcement. That means in most places, especially like the one you are in that some things will carry without any amplification and some things will need amplification. You need to blend the two together. That is one reason why when someone asks me to record the output from the mixer (the House mix) I tell them no because it will sound out of balance. An instrument that is loud on stage and doesn’t need to be up in the house mix will then be missing from the recording. At one outdoor concert we were setting up for the bass player and the guitar player showed up before we were done setting up and plugged in and started to wail away. This was a Doo-Wop group. We told them to just play loud enough so that they could hear themselves and let us bring it up to the level it needed to be for the audience. And remarkably they listened and did that. After the show all of the band members came up to us and said “we never heard ourselves so well”. Their groupies came up to us and said "they never sounded so good". If the musicians cooperate it can make a huge difference. [/QUOTE]
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