JBL STX and Crown XTi

Jared Koopman

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This is coming from a desire to just simply understand the hows and whys, and not so much "spend my money".

In looking at the JBL STX series loudspeakers, how would one go about selecting appropriate amps for these speakers? For the sake of simplicity and a starting point, let's say I have:
2 x STX835
4 x STX812M
2 x STX828S

Lets assume running the 812M's full range as floor wedges and bi-amping the 835's and provided the Crown XTi' ratings are real world numbers.

Starting with the 812M's, according to the spec sheet they are 8 ohms, 95db 1w/1m, and rated for 800W / 1600W/ 3400W (Pink noise/ continuous / peak). Am I correct in assuming that the continuous rating is the number I need to look at and therefore a bridged XTi 1002 or 2002 is what I should be pairing up with those speakers? If I didn't want to bridge then I would need to jump up to the 6002 to get the same power into the 8ohm load?

Now with the 835's being biamped am I correct in assuming that the horn does not need 3200W continuous as stated in the specs, so how would one determine how much is needed for the top section vs the low end? Could I use the 1002 on top and either a bridged 4002 or the 6002 for the LF?

Which leads to my next question...better (sound quality) to bridge or run each channel separately?

And I would assume either the 4002 bridged or the 6002 for the subs.

Again this is purely mental gymnastics and trying to understand selecting and matching speakers to amps. Thanks for any help.

Jared
 
Re: JBL STX and Crown XTi

Now with the 835's being biamped am I correct in assuming that the horn does not need 3200W continuous as stated in the specs, so how would one determine how much is needed for the top section vs the low end?

The spec sheet tells you 1600/3200/6400 LF and 350/700/1400 MHF in biamp mode, so I would suggest 3200 and 700 rated and rms limiter. It is also a good ide to have a clip limiter for the MHF since clipping might overpower the HF in the passively crossed MHF section.
 
Re: JBL STX and Crown XTi

The spec sheet tells you 1600/3200/6400 LF and 350/700/1400 MHF in biamp mode, so I would suggest 3200 and 700 rated and rms limiter. It is also a good ide to have a clip limiter for the MHF since clipping might overpower the HF in the passively crossed MHF section.

Hmm, I must have had an earlier version of the spec sheet, as it didn't list the bi-amp ratings. Thanks!
I assumed the internal dsp on the amps included a limiter, is that not correct?
 
Re: JBL STX and Crown XTi

Hmm, I must have had an earlier version of the spec sheet, as it didn't list the bi-amp ratings. Thanks!
I assumed the internal dsp on the amps included a limiter, is that not correct?

The new XTi2 series has a voltage limiter, the old XTi series only had a limiter referenced to peak output, in 3dB increments: -3dB, -6dB, -9dB, -12dB. Not exactly intuitive, and 3dB is a HUGE range.
 
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The new XTi2 series has a voltage limiter, the old XTi series only had a limiter referenced to peak output, in 3dB increments: -3dB, -6dB, -9dB, -12dB. Not exactly intuitive, and 3dB is a HUGE range.
When you consider the STX impedance curve goes from 3.16 to over 32 ohms, 3 dB does not seem like a HUGE range.

The IEC standard (IEC60268-3) allows any impedance above the rated value, but limits the impedance below. It does not allow the rated impedance to fall below 80 % of the nominal value at any frequency.

Seems to me that 3.16 ohms is only 79% of 4 ohms...
 

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