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<blockquote data-quote="David Karol" data-source="post: 88166" data-attributes="member: 3">Re: keeping stages cleanLiam,I&#039;m not sure what you mean by small... I&#039;ll just think about all the time&#039;s I&#039;ve been the patch guy on a festival stage.&nbsp; Mostly mentioned, but here&#039;s my thoughts.<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Label subsnakes. (Plan ahead and do this at the shop)</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Label both ends of each cable.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Use the shortest cables possible for drums.&nbsp; Not much will change band-to-band.&nbsp; (10 ft.)</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Recoil cables that get messed up during changeovers, you&#039;ll find yourself doing this a lot, but it&#039;s worth the extra effort.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Have stands built in case your drum mic clips don&#039;t fit the drums.&nbsp; Keep at least 4 extra booms built for your potential horn section.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Leave extra inputs in each subsnake.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Leave extra inputs on the console. 
 To fit in 32ch, something like... 
 - 1-12 Drums (Leave a stereo DI here too) 
 - 13-14 Bass 
 - 15-18 Gtr 
 - 19-22 DIs (Leave these on the front of the stage with plenty of cable length to pull them back.&nbsp; Leave something dedicated for your DJs) 
 - 23-26 Other Instruments 
 - 27-32 Vox</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Keep it simple.&nbsp; Leave channels for drums if needed, but don&#039;t go double micing things that don&#039;t really need to be.&nbsp; It&#039;s just more to deal with.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Lots of subsnakes clean everything up.&nbsp; DSC, USL, USR, Drum.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Have someone dedicated to deal with patch if possible.&nbsp; The more different people dealing with it, the messier it will be.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Hope you have a stage manager who advanced with every band.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">When a mic isn&#039;t being used, pull it to mon world, or at least pull the cable out so it doesn&#039;t look like there&#039;s something there out on the meters out front.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Grab a square card reader and sell the bands basic recordings for $50 each if the promotor will allow it.&nbsp; Figuring half buy them, it makes the whole show worth your trouble <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Have the crew build drum kits off stage ahead of time.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul"> If it&#039;s a large enough stage, room, have a second set of mics and another drop on a second wheeled riser.&nbsp; Just swap the two at changeovers.&nbsp; Same goes for guitar rigs, DJ rigs.</li>
</ul>edit: One more thing, if you have a digital console on mons, leave a preset with just the basics to go back to after each act.&nbsp; Or on an analog console, go back to it each time around.&nbsp; Also, know that whatever a band can do to cause feedback in the monitors, they will do.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="David Karol, post: 88166, member: 3"] Re: keeping stages clean Liam, I'm not sure what you mean by small... I'll just think about all the time's I've been the patch guy on a festival stage. Mostly mentioned, but here's my thoughts. [LIST] [*]Label subsnakes. (Plan ahead and do this at the shop) [*]Label both ends of each cable. [*]Use the shortest cables possible for drums. Not much will change band-to-band. (10 ft.) [*]Recoil cables that get messed up during changeovers, you'll find yourself doing this a lot, but it's worth the extra effort. [*]Have stands built in case your drum mic clips don't fit the drums. Keep at least 4 extra booms built for your potential horn section. [*]Leave extra inputs in each subsnake. [*]Leave extra inputs on the console. To fit in 32ch, something like... - 1-12 Drums (Leave a stereo DI here too) - 13-14 Bass - 15-18 Gtr - 19-22 DIs (Leave these on the front of the stage with plenty of cable length to pull them back. Leave something dedicated for your DJs) - 23-26 Other Instruments - 27-32 Vox [*]Keep it simple. Leave channels for drums if needed, but don't go double micing things that don't really need to be. It's just more to deal with. [*]Lots of subsnakes clean everything up. DSC, USL, USR, Drum. [*]Have someone dedicated to deal with patch if possible. The more different people dealing with it, the messier it will be. [*]Hope you have a stage manager who advanced with every band. [*]When a mic isn't being used, pull it to mon world, or at least pull the cable out so it doesn't look like there's something there out on the meters out front. [*]Grab a square card reader and sell the bands basic recordings for $50 each if the promotor will allow it. Figuring half buy them, it makes the whole show worth your trouble :) [*]Have the crew build drum kits off stage ahead of time. [*] If it's a large enough stage, room, have a second set of mics and another drop on a second wheeled riser. Just swap the two at changeovers. Same goes for guitar rigs, DJ rigs. [/LIST] edit: One more thing, if you have a digital console on mons, leave a preset with just the basics to go back to after each act. Or on an analog console, go back to it each time around. Also, know that whatever a band can do to cause feedback in the monitors, they will do. [/QUOTE]

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