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<blockquote data-quote="Langston Holland" data-source="post: 55876" data-attributes="member: 171"><p>Re: KF730/SB730/SB1000 system</p><p></p><p>Well then, what I'd really like are a couple of round trip plane tickets to Norway for a week or two to play with this rig! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>But, since that's a tad unlikely...</p><p></p><p>---</p><p>[ATTACH]150465[/ATTACH]</p><p><u>Notes</u>:</p><p></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The green curve is the KF730's low passband processed by the UX. If you use a 160Hz HP on it that'll be about the same as muting it.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The overlap of the SB730's (blue trace) and KF730's makes a world of difference and will make anyone that hears it hesitate in their consideration of the KF740.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Use the MX8750 for your delays, use the UX for your KF730's, SB730's and SB1000's.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">All data fields not mentioned below remain at their defaults.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">These suggestions assume that all amps have the same gains.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Input PEQ for KF730 results in NEXO and KF740 like curves that begin to rise just before 2kHz. The Smaart plot in this post shows KF730 curve without these (5) PEQ filters. Enabling the filters makes the KF730 sound as good as it can get with the UX IMO.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The HP and PEQ for the SB730 allows them to go almost 6dB louder than stock with almost no audible reduction in LF extension. The PEQ is the reciprocal of what EAW has in the greybox.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">You must use the KF730x4-8 greybox for these sub settings. Not only is this the best sounding KF730 greybox regardless of array size, every greybox has a different latency, thus a different delay requirement for the mating subs. In the case of the KF730, the polarity of the low and mid-high passbands are swapped relative to the KF730x16 greybox which will really screw things up if you switch between the two indiscriminately.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Assuming you're dumb enough to do what I say, once you have everything setup leave the SB1000's off and get a feel for how much better the flown array sounds and what it can do without the ground stacked subs. Then slowly bring the SB1000's into the mix and see what happens. I have a strong feeling that you won't be needing as much help from the SB1000's as you used to.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Run the two sub types from two independent aux channels. Send kick, bass and floor toms to the SB1000's as usual, but also send all the toms, snare, electric guitars and <em>maybe</em> keys to the SB730's. Even send vocals to the SB730's if it's grungy. Use the console's HP filters to limit the amount of SB730 contribution from stuff you're used to sending only to the tops. Warmth and power rule rock! Don't be lazy and boring like 99% of even the good BE's I've met! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">You should master EAW's Resolution software and make sure the flown rig really is hung as well as possible for your venue.</li> </ol><p><u>KF730</u>:</p><p></p><p>Greybox: KF730x4-8 BI</p><p>HP 80Hz</p><p></p><p>Input PEQ:</p><p></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">85Hz, +2dB, .5 BW</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">580Hz, +2dB, .25 BW</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">1,000Hz, -2dB, .2 BW</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">1,300Hz, +2dB, .3 BW</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">3,200Hz, -3dB, .5 BW</li> </ol><p><u>SB730</u>:</p><p></p><p>Greybox: SB730 SNGL</p><p>HP 35Hz BW24, LP 80Hz LR24, Delay 2.71ms, Gain -3dB</p><p></p><p>Input PEQ:</p><p></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">35.5Hz, -2dB, .5 BW</li> </ol><p><u>SB1000</u>:</p><p></p><p>Greybox: SB1000z SNGL</p><p>HP 25Hz BW24, LP 80Hz LR24, Delay 5ms</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Langston Holland, post: 55876, member: 171"] Re: KF730/SB730/SB1000 system Well then, what I'd really like are a couple of round trip plane tickets to Norway for a week or two to play with this rig! :) But, since that's a tad unlikely... --- [ATTACH=CONFIG]150465.vB5-legacyid=3963[/ATTACH] [U]Notes[/U]: [LIST=1] [*]The green curve is the KF730's low passband processed by the UX. If you use a 160Hz HP on it that'll be about the same as muting it. [*]The overlap of the SB730's (blue trace) and KF730's makes a world of difference and will make anyone that hears it hesitate in their consideration of the KF740. [*]Use the MX8750 for your delays, use the UX for your KF730's, SB730's and SB1000's. [*]All data fields not mentioned below remain at their defaults. [*]These suggestions assume that all amps have the same gains. [*]Input PEQ for KF730 results in NEXO and KF740 like curves that begin to rise just before 2kHz. The Smaart plot in this post shows KF730 curve without these (5) PEQ filters. Enabling the filters makes the KF730 sound as good as it can get with the UX IMO. [*]The HP and PEQ for the SB730 allows them to go almost 6dB louder than stock with almost no audible reduction in LF extension. The PEQ is the reciprocal of what EAW has in the greybox. [*]You must use the KF730x4-8 greybox for these sub settings. Not only is this the best sounding KF730 greybox regardless of array size, every greybox has a different latency, thus a different delay requirement for the mating subs. In the case of the KF730, the polarity of the low and mid-high passbands are swapped relative to the KF730x16 greybox which will really screw things up if you switch between the two indiscriminately. [*]Assuming you're dumb enough to do what I say, once you have everything setup leave the SB1000's off and get a feel for how much better the flown array sounds and what it can do without the ground stacked subs. Then slowly bring the SB1000's into the mix and see what happens. I have a strong feeling that you won't be needing as much help from the SB1000's as you used to. [*]Run the two sub types from two independent aux channels. Send kick, bass and floor toms to the SB1000's as usual, but also send all the toms, snare, electric guitars and [i]maybe[/i] keys to the SB730's. Even send vocals to the SB730's if it's grungy. Use the console's HP filters to limit the amount of SB730 contribution from stuff you're used to sending only to the tops. Warmth and power rule rock! Don't be lazy and boring like 99% of even the good BE's I've met! :) [*]You should master EAW's Resolution software and make sure the flown rig really is hung as well as possible for your venue. [/LIST] [U]KF730[/U]: Greybox: KF730x4-8 BI HP 80Hz Input PEQ: [LIST=1] [*]85Hz, +2dB, .5 BW [*]580Hz, +2dB, .25 BW [*]1,000Hz, -2dB, .2 BW [*]1,300Hz, +2dB, .3 BW [*]3,200Hz, -3dB, .5 BW [/LIST] [U]SB730[/U]: Greybox: SB730 SNGL HP 35Hz BW24, LP 80Hz LR24, Delay 2.71ms, Gain -3dB Input PEQ: [LIST=1] [*]35.5Hz, -2dB, .5 BW [/LIST] [U]SB1000[/U]: Greybox: SB1000z SNGL HP 25Hz BW24, LP 80Hz LR24, Delay 5ms [/QUOTE]
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