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<blockquote data-quote="Mike Brown" data-source="post: 3774" data-attributes="member: 1310"><p>As the industry moves into more and more networked and smart devices I wonder what you guys are doing as far as network configurations. Almost seems like I am wiring more ethernet than XLR these days!</p><p></p><p>Lets say we have on a show:</p><p></p><p>A FOH amplifier monitoring/dsp system like IRIS net or LA Network manager or similar.</p><p>A MON amplifier monitoring/dsp system like IRIS net or LA Network manager or similar.</p><p>A FOH console with tablet/ipad mixing capabilities like VENUE etc</p><p>A MON console with tablet/ipad mixing capabilities (may or may not be same brand)</p><p>Wireless microphone monitoring via network </p><p>Wireless internet (have to surf the forums to complain about rogue BE engineers ruining your stuff)</p><p>And maybe some other crap.</p><p></p><p>For some damn reason everyone wants all of these features all the time, before and during the show. </p><p></p><p>Plus maybe some non-audio (but who really cares) networks like:</p><p></p><p>A lighting control console with wireless DMX</p><p>Video camera PTZ control/whatever via network etc etc etc</p><p></p><p>I really see two ways to go about doing this:</p><p></p><p>1. Create an "Audio" network for all audio related tasks, a "Lighting" and "Video" networks for their tasks as well.</p><p></p><p> Pros: FOH or MON or system tech could check in and control any service without having to swap networks. Simple computer setup.</p><p> Cons: Reliability? Bandwidth? Is anyone running into problems here? Annoying wiring/router setup</p><p></p><p>2. Crate a separate network for each service, "FOH AMPS" "MON AMPS" "FOH CONSOLE" "MON CONSOLE" etc etc etc</p><p></p><p> Pros: Reliability? Bandwidth? Fairly easy wiring router setup</p><p> Cons: System tech/whoever having to continuously change networks to control different devices, annoying usability?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Anyone starting to hit the limits of bandwidth of 802.11x? Reliability problems with many different clients and apps? Slow response on VNC stuff etc?</p><p></p><p></p><p>I would imagine most production houses going route 2 so that they can build it into their cases and have very modular shows. I imagine most tours going with 1 for ease of setup, tuning, fast control, etc. </p><p></p><p></p><p>So how are you guys attacking this to maximize setup/teardown speed, ease of use, and, of course, reliability.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mike Brown, post: 3774, member: 1310"] As the industry moves into more and more networked and smart devices I wonder what you guys are doing as far as network configurations. Almost seems like I am wiring more ethernet than XLR these days! Lets say we have on a show: A FOH amplifier monitoring/dsp system like IRIS net or LA Network manager or similar. A MON amplifier monitoring/dsp system like IRIS net or LA Network manager or similar. A FOH console with tablet/ipad mixing capabilities like VENUE etc A MON console with tablet/ipad mixing capabilities (may or may not be same brand) Wireless microphone monitoring via network Wireless internet (have to surf the forums to complain about rogue BE engineers ruining your stuff) And maybe some other crap. For some damn reason everyone wants all of these features all the time, before and during the show. Plus maybe some non-audio (but who really cares) networks like: A lighting control console with wireless DMX Video camera PTZ control/whatever via network etc etc etc I really see two ways to go about doing this: 1. Create an "Audio" network for all audio related tasks, a "Lighting" and "Video" networks for their tasks as well. Pros: FOH or MON or system tech could check in and control any service without having to swap networks. Simple computer setup. Cons: Reliability? Bandwidth? Is anyone running into problems here? Annoying wiring/router setup 2. Crate a separate network for each service, "FOH AMPS" "MON AMPS" "FOH CONSOLE" "MON CONSOLE" etc etc etc Pros: Reliability? Bandwidth? Fairly easy wiring router setup Cons: System tech/whoever having to continuously change networks to control different devices, annoying usability? Anyone starting to hit the limits of bandwidth of 802.11x? Reliability problems with many different clients and apps? Slow response on VNC stuff etc? I would imagine most production houses going route 2 so that they can build it into their cases and have very modular shows. I imagine most tours going with 1 for ease of setup, tuning, fast control, etc. So how are you guys attacking this to maximize setup/teardown speed, ease of use, and, of course, reliability. [/QUOTE]
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