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<blockquote data-quote="Tim McCulloch" data-source="post: 26430" data-attributes="member: 67">Re: Line arrays... JBL vs EAWHi Steve-When we first looked at buying Vertical the KF730 were on my list, as were VerTec 4888.&nbsp; We also compared the big brothers, KF760 and 4889.&nbsp; After much research, personal listening and consulting with BEs and other system owners we bought 4889s.&nbsp; Later we added 4887 and I&#039;m not sure I miss the 4888.&nbsp; Even when the 4888 might make more sense, the 4889 works fine.&nbsp; In situations where I need a compact array, neither the 88s or 89s will do.With the 4887a, 6 per side does not a rock PA make.&nbsp; If you&#039;re not doing rock and the venue geometry / SPL expectations are in your favor, the 87s may well be the ticket.&nbsp; I would consider buying 4 more 4887a, too.&nbsp; JBL can do a custom preset load if you want to use your 728s, or you might find that the 4880 preset works sufficiently well (something I suspect many owners of Vertec over 728s use).Likewise, 4 KF730 do not make a line array and certainly not for 3000 outdoors.&nbsp; If you buy this rig you should IMMEDIATELY buy 4 more KF730.&nbsp; 6/side won&#039;t be rock and roll for 3000 outdoors, but you can probably do anything lighter.&nbsp; I&#039;d put the SB730 on top of the array and ground stack the SB1000s.&nbsp; There is no processing less than the UX8800 that will suffice.&nbsp; If you don&#039;t purchase it and the extra tops you will find yourself as &quot;the guy with ALMOST enough rig&quot;.The length of the line determines the LF pattern control, so 8/side of 4887 or 8/side of KF730 will not be the same; the 730 rig will be about 20&quot; taller.&nbsp; The 730 rig will weigh 144# more, too.&nbsp; In the 4887&#039;s favor, it has calculated output 6dB greater than the 730 in the LF, 5dB more in the mid/HF.&nbsp; Both EAW and JBL call their long term peak outputs &quot;calculated.&quot;What is your target market for this rig, and what is available in your general region if you want to cross-rent (either direction)?Have fun, good luck.Tim Mc</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tim McCulloch, post: 26430, member: 67"] Re: Line arrays... JBL vs EAW Hi Steve- When we first looked at buying Vertical the KF730 were on my list, as were VerTec 4888. We also compared the big brothers, KF760 and 4889. After much research, personal listening and consulting with BEs and other system owners we bought 4889s. Later we added 4887 and I'm not sure I miss the 4888. Even when the 4888 might make more sense, the 4889 works fine. In situations where I need a compact array, neither the 88s or 89s will do. With the 4887a, 6 per side does not a rock PA make. If you're not doing rock and the venue geometry / SPL expectations are in your favor, the 87s may well be the ticket. I would consider buying 4 more 4887a, too. JBL can do a custom preset load if you want to use your 728s, or you might find that the 4880 preset works sufficiently well (something I suspect many owners of Vertec over 728s use). Likewise, 4 KF730 do not make a line array and certainly not for 3000 outdoors. If you buy this rig you should IMMEDIATELY buy 4 more KF730. 6/side won't be rock and roll for 3000 outdoors, but you can probably do anything lighter. I'd put the SB730 on top of the array and ground stack the SB1000s. There is no processing less than the UX8800 that will suffice. If you don't purchase it and the extra tops you will find yourself as "the guy with ALMOST enough rig". The length of the line determines the LF pattern control, so 8/side of 4887 or 8/side of KF730 will not be the same; the 730 rig will be about 20" taller. The 730 rig will weigh 144# more, too. In the 4887's favor, it has calculated output 6dB greater than the 730 in the LF, 5dB more in the mid/HF. Both EAW and JBL call their long term peak outputs "calculated." What is your target market for this rig, and what is available in your general region if you want to cross-rent (either direction)? Have fun, good luck. Tim Mc [/QUOTE]

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