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<blockquote data-quote="Geoff Doane" data-source="post: 58940" data-attributes="member: 1155">Re: Longframe/Bantam Patchbays and phantom power...Bantam or Longframe patchbays can work for mic level patching, and sometimes they can be a source of continuous grief.I&#039;ve seen both.&nbsp; You definitely want to avoid brass plugs (like the old ADC).&nbsp; Once they tarnish, they don&#039;t conduct line level signals very well, let alone mic level.&nbsp; On the other hand, we have a Moses &amp; Mitchell bantam patchbay in an SSL console that has been in service since 1998, and the only issues have been mechanical, not electrical.&nbsp; BTW, we use Neutrik and Mogami plated patch cables in this studio.&nbsp; Full, rather than half normaling, is usually used for mic level patching.&nbsp; On the SSL, all the grounds (screens) are bused at the patchbay.&nbsp; There&#039;s no attempt to change the path of the grounds when patching.If I was making all the decisions, I&#039;d prefer an XLR mic scrambler panel, but that may not be possible due to size considerations&nbsp; (an 80 channel panel in a recording truck used 12 rack spaces).&nbsp; For an installation, it is possible to parallel wire more than one female XLR on each input line.&nbsp; If you plan carefully, you can cover most setups without any patches in the path.&nbsp; I&#039;d gladly trade the extra wire for the lack of non-soldered connections (patches).GTD</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Geoff Doane, post: 58940, member: 1155"] Re: Longframe/Bantam Patchbays and phantom power... Bantam or Longframe patchbays [I]can[/I] work for mic level patching, and sometimes they can be a source of continuous grief. I've seen both. You definitely want to avoid brass plugs (like the old ADC). Once they tarnish, they don't conduct line level signals very well, let alone mic level. On the other hand, we have a Moses & Mitchell bantam patchbay in an SSL console that has been in service since 1998, and the only issues have been mechanical, not electrical. BTW, we use Neutrik and Mogami plated patch cables in this studio. Full, rather than half normaling, is usually used for mic level patching. On the SSL, all the grounds (screens) are bused at the patchbay. There's no attempt to change the path of the grounds when patching. If I was making all the decisions, I'd prefer an XLR mic scrambler panel, but that may not be possible due to size considerations (an 80 channel panel in a recording truck used 12 rack spaces). For an installation, it is possible to parallel wire more than one female XLR on each input line. If you plan carefully, you can cover most setups without any patches in the path. I'd gladly trade the extra wire for the lack of non-soldered connections (patches). GTD [/QUOTE]

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