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<blockquote data-quote="gordon mcgregor" data-source="post: 32293" data-attributes="member: 169">Re: Up in smoke!I&#039;ve got 4 Meyer UPAs that I bought a few years ago now 2nd hand for about the same cost as a set of these Mackies. Now other than replacing the heavy ass amps they came with, (still working, just me that can&#039;t move them) these things have worked with no problems at all and yesterday I ran pink noise through them with SMAART and they were all within a couple of db of each other which probably had more to do with my less than accurate placing of speakers and mics than any speaker issue not bad for 12 year old units.&nbsp; I learnt the hard way years ago about cheap speakers and amps however I can&#039;t afford new ones so some trawling of the sound brokers etc and behold good quality units with a good few years life in them.&nbsp; As an aside we have 4 RCF era SRM450s and other than a DJ blowing the crap out of 1 pair they&#039;ve never been a problem. It would appear that Mackie in common with a lot of other makers of lower price kit have good basic designs but in the attempt to keep costs down lose it in the QC department which is a shame but unless they sort it then their reputations will stay as they are. GExamples of good 2nd hand buys, UPAs, Meyer CQs and even MSL4s any D+b as long as you get the amps, Nexo Alpha particulaly the &quot;E&quot; for the smaller co,Martin Wave front and Turbo Flood and Flash are also widely available now. EAW kit as well in he US is looking good these days (UX8000) however I&#039;ve seen some badly processed ones of these and wonder what state they&#039;ll be in, there are others but those are the ones I see coming through and from good companies who&#039;ll have kept the gear well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gordon mcgregor, post: 32293, member: 169"] Re: Up in smoke! I've got 4 Meyer UPAs that I bought a few years ago now 2nd hand for about the same cost as a set of these Mackies. Now other than replacing the heavy ass amps they came with, (still working, just me that can't move them) these things have worked with no problems at all and yesterday I ran pink noise through them with SMAART and they were all within a couple of db of each other which probably had more to do with my less than accurate placing of speakers and mics than any speaker issue not bad for 12 year old units. I learnt the hard way years ago about cheap speakers and amps however I can't afford new ones so some trawling of the sound brokers etc and behold good quality units with a good few years life in them. As an aside we have 4 RCF era SRM450s and other than a DJ blowing the crap out of 1 pair they've never been a problem. It would appear that Mackie in common with a lot of other makers of lower price kit have good basic designs but in the attempt to keep costs down lose it in the QC department which is a shame but unless they sort it then their reputations will stay as they are. G Examples of good 2nd hand buys, UPAs, Meyer CQs and even MSL4s any D+b as long as you get the amps, Nexo Alpha particulaly the "E" for the smaller co,Martin Wave front and Turbo Flood and Flash are also widely available now. EAW kit as well in he US is looking good these days (UX8000) however I've seen some badly processed ones of these and wonder what state they'll be in, there are others but those are the ones I see coming through and from good companies who'll have kept the gear well. [/QUOTE]

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