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<blockquote data-quote="Jason Dermer" data-source="post: 43657" data-attributes="member: 234">Re: Marines urinate on dead TalibanThough morally &quot;wrong&quot; these Marines weren&#039;t thinking about international politics, public perception, honor, duty, or any of the like. They took out those that were trying to take them out, and as has happened countless times in the history of humanity, celebrated like little kids. They made one mistake, breaking the 12th general order.I&#039;m noticing a very strong trend even from vets on this subject. REMs and pogues are the most likely to be bitching about it, along with some complaints from those that have been forward deployed in arty, motor t, etc. Even a few riflemen. Find me anything but support from someone from a Recon/ Special Forces/ SEAL team, or especially a Scout/ Sniper. These Marines from Team 4 aren&#039;t dropping bombs from 20,000 feet or firing missiles from the sea. They aren&#039;t laying down a field of fire or dropping mortar shells. No anonymity, no escape in thinking that it wasn&#039;t &quot;their shot.&quot; They are looking through a scope and making a conscious decision to kill a living, breathing human being, watching their last breath become a red mist. Military or not, if you haven&#039;t been in that position, had that weight on your shoulders, just stop. You have no clue what is on the minds of these Marines, how 2 minutes of acting like 5 year olds and can ease your mind from what you had to do. Over the past few days I have been suspended for ranting about this subject on 2 message boards. I&#039;ve kept it short and to the point, and I do not plan on replying further in this post, please feel free to email me if you would like to discuss.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jason Dermer, post: 43657, member: 234"] Re: Marines urinate on dead Taliban Though morally "wrong" these Marines weren't thinking about international politics, public perception, honor, duty, or any of the like. They took out those that were trying to take them out, and as has happened countless times in the history of humanity, celebrated like little kids. They made one mistake, breaking the 12th general order. I'm noticing a very strong trend even from vets on this subject. REMs and pogues are the most likely to be bitching about it, along with some complaints from those that have been forward deployed in arty, motor t, etc. Even a few riflemen. Find me anything but support from someone from a Recon/ Special Forces/ SEAL team, or especially a Scout/ Sniper. These Marines from Team 4 aren't dropping bombs from 20,000 feet or firing missiles from the sea. They aren't laying down a field of fire or dropping mortar shells. No anonymity, no escape in thinking that it wasn't "their shot." They are looking through a scope and making a conscious decision to kill a living, breathing human being, watching their last breath become a red mist. Military or not, if you haven't been in that position, had that weight on your shoulders, just stop. You have no clue what is on the minds of these Marines, how 2 minutes of acting like 5 year olds and can ease your mind from what you had to do. Over the past few days I have been suspended for ranting about this subject on 2 message boards. I've kept it short and to the point, and I do not plan on replying further in this post, please feel free to email me if you would like to discuss. [/QUOTE]

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