Mic Splitters and digital desks

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Chris Greco

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Feb 15, 2012
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Ok so I've been bit by the sharing inputs problem on a pair of M32s using a shared stage box between the two. I know that since I have switched over to digital my noise (60hz buzz) problems have pretty much gone away regardless of whether I am using a single desk or a pair (FOH&MON). I am thinking about getting a split so that I can not have to deal with the sharing inputs problem again. Anyone have experience using a non transformer split as opposed to a transformer split on digitals?
 
Re: Mic Splitters and digital desks

Hey Chris,

The majority of the time I'm doing an analog split (non-xfmr) between FOH & MON. I do own a nice Ramtech 3-way ISO, but sadly it rarely sees the light of day anymore. Assuming normal power distribution and proper grounding schemes between FOH & MON, a non-xfmr split should be fine 99% of the time.
 
Re: Mic Splitters and digital desks

I use a Seismic rackmount passive splitter with my X32's. It works great, and this particular product seems to be a nice step up from typical Seismic "quality." Catch them when they're on sale and it'll be a pretty good deal.

There are 2 versions of their 32 channel split, but this is the one I have:
http://www.seismicaudiospeakers.com...-splitter-snake-15-30-trunks/p/SARMSS-32x1530

I rarely see a transformer split these days, even on the largest systems I work with. I think you'll be fine with a passive split.
 
Re: Mic Splitters and digital desks

I've had a couple people carrying their own Seismic split with their in ear system, both had dead channels, the connectors would hardly mate with the real Neutrik's in my snake box ( I think the Seismic XLR shells are too thick) and the wire gauge looked to be less than 24.

For a two way split hardwire passive is fine with proper power distribution in play. Doing a split to a remote video or recording truck, or even to remote location in the same building that could be a different story.
 
Re: Mic Splitters and digital desks

Mike Caldwell said:
I've had a couple people carrying their own Seismic split with their in ear system, both had dead channels, the connectors would hardly mate with the real Neutrik's in my snake box ( I think the Seismic XLR shells are too thick) and the wire gauge looked to be less than 24.

For a two way split hardwire passive is fine with proper power distribution in play. Doing a split to a remote video or recording truck, or even to remote location in the same building that could be a different story.
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We work on some fairly big stages with names you have heard, and passive splits are the only thing we own or see. I have never run into a problem caused by the split being passive vs transformer isolated. The isolation is for sending the signal to a place where the power is supplied from a different source, otherwise it's unnecessary.
Last weekend we had an act come through with their own split and mixer for their IEMs. It was a Seismic splitter, brand new. The xlrs were 'very' tight fitting into our Ramlatch splitter. The Seismics are slightly off standard size.
 
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Bob Urtz said:
We work on some fairly big stages with names you have heard, and passive splits are the only thing we own or see. I have never run into a problem caused by the split being passive vs transformer isolated. The isolation is for sending the signal to a place where the power is supplied from a different source, otherwise it's unnecessary.
Last weekend we had an act come through with their own split and mixer for their IEMs. It was a Seismic splitter, brand new. The xlrs were 'very' tight fitting into our Ramlatch splitter. The Seismics are slightly off standard size.
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Cheap knock off connectors are one of my big pet peeves, had those connectors gotten stuck in my snake I would have been really pissed!
 
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