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<blockquote data-quote="Tim Duffin" data-source="post: 141761" data-attributes="member: 400">Re: Money up frontThat is not the only reason to require %50.&nbsp; I explicitly do that to prevent another vendor from coming in at the last minute and taking the show for 1/5th of the agreed upon price.&nbsp; If the client has already paid something, they are much less likely to allow another smooth talking cheaper-than-you sound company to slide in at the last minute and take the gig.&nbsp; &quot;Doing Sound&quot; is mostly a laymans game, there is nothing complicated or challenging about the entire field of live audio and there is always a company who can do everything cheaper or free just to &quot;get in the biz.&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; That is why there are so many people doing it and the reason that this discussion even exists.&nbsp; If live audio were in any way challenging, the number of people vying for gigs would shrink dramatically.And while we are on the subject, the only reason any freelance sound guys get paid anything is because the company is too lazy to call other sound people, so its easier to have the same guys return for the next show.&nbsp; Freelance sound people are a dime a billion and many of them get stiffed all the time because the desire to &quot;do sound&quot; exceeds the demand for their talent.&nbsp; So, lets say I have 8 shows and 50 freelance people to choose from.&nbsp; I could (if I wanted) book them all for shows and pay none of them ever because there are always more available who want to do that specific work.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tim Duffin, post: 141761, member: 400"] Re: Money up front That is not the only reason to require %50. I explicitly do that to prevent another vendor from coming in at the last minute and taking the show for 1/5th of the agreed upon price. If the client has already paid something, they are much less likely to allow another smooth talking cheaper-than-you sound company to slide in at the last minute and take the gig. "Doing Sound" is mostly a laymans game, there is nothing complicated or challenging about the entire field of live audio and there is always a company who can do everything cheaper or free just to "get in the biz." That is why there are so many people doing it and the reason that this discussion even exists. If live audio were in any way challenging, the number of people vying for gigs would shrink dramatically. And while we are on the subject, the only reason any freelance sound guys get paid anything is because the company is too lazy to call other sound people, so its easier to have the same guys return for the next show. Freelance sound people are a dime a billion and many of them get stiffed all the time because the desire to "do sound" exceeds the demand for their talent. So, lets say I have 8 shows and 50 freelance people to choose from. I could (if I wanted) book them all for shows and pay none of them ever because there are always more available who want to do that specific work. [/QUOTE]

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