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<blockquote data-quote="Will Roth" data-source="post: 209239" data-attributes="member: 12300"><p>Hello everyone</p><p>Outdoor venue now with a permanent stage needs an answer for snakes and power. In the past trenches have been dug,they have been flown,cable ramps,bike rack. This is a dirt gravel mix sometimes with a sand topping and never fun to dig through</p><p></p><p>We are now hoping pipes will gget put in ( unless someone has a better answer).</p><p>We need to have access at 100' and 200' for bigger shows. they need to be sealed and opened as needed, and need to be sealed without anything getting in over the winter</p><p>Copper snakes,network,W4,feeder for spot lights, additional lighting, delay stacks and whatever insanity might get included as the next biggest cooler tour thinks up.</p><p>Obviously bigger is better and the more pipes ( thoughts on interference of 300 amps going through for lighting on top of the audio snake are welcome) how much space between?</p><p></p><p>Problems I have seen in the past:</p><p>1 Someone leaves the lid off and rain,water beer or worse gets in there and the first guy that season pulls his $10k snake through is pissed and has to re-loom it because it now looks like shit and the next day is a corporate show in a ballroom.</p><p>2 Drunken concert goers use it as a trash can or worse ;-) and it made it through fine at load in but at load out it seems to get stuck and before you are made aware of it, the 2 house guys have called over Big Earl and Bubba and they can pull a Chevy through that pipe if needed and you get there just as they fall backwards and you wait in horror as the end comes out without the W4 </p><p>3 Guys who lay pipe run into big rock and decide they have 3-90 degree fittings in the truck and they will just go around it.</p><p>4 Oh you wanted us to pull the pull line back through when we pulled the snake out so you can use this pipe next week? </p><p>5. The opening band that got here at noon want to pull their lighting snake through even tough their set is at 5pm in direct sunlight and there are 100 movers at their disposal so they decide that pipe is plenty big and there is what seems to be a pull line so they just pull over top of the loom in there. Seems easy right?</p><p>6 The guy who has to pay for it realizes the one 12" PVC coupler is $96 and a T is $220 and the 45 degree is $150 and then you need 400' of pipe to have only 2 runs so he puts in 2- 6' pipes and tells you to make it work</p><p></p><p>Just make everything wireless right? </p><p></p><p>Thank you for your thoughts,comments and great ideas</p><p></p><p>Will</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Will Roth, post: 209239, member: 12300"] Hello everyone Outdoor venue now with a permanent stage needs an answer for snakes and power. In the past trenches have been dug,they have been flown,cable ramps,bike rack. This is a dirt gravel mix sometimes with a sand topping and never fun to dig through We are now hoping pipes will gget put in ( unless someone has a better answer). We need to have access at 100' and 200' for bigger shows. they need to be sealed and opened as needed, and need to be sealed without anything getting in over the winter Copper snakes,network,W4,feeder for spot lights, additional lighting, delay stacks and whatever insanity might get included as the next biggest cooler tour thinks up. Obviously bigger is better and the more pipes ( thoughts on interference of 300 amps going through for lighting on top of the audio snake are welcome) how much space between? Problems I have seen in the past: 1 Someone leaves the lid off and rain,water beer or worse gets in there and the first guy that season pulls his $10k snake through is pissed and has to re-loom it because it now looks like shit and the next day is a corporate show in a ballroom. 2 Drunken concert goers use it as a trash can or worse ;-) and it made it through fine at load in but at load out it seems to get stuck and before you are made aware of it, the 2 house guys have called over Big Earl and Bubba and they can pull a Chevy through that pipe if needed and you get there just as they fall backwards and you wait in horror as the end comes out without the W4 3 Guys who lay pipe run into big rock and decide they have 3-90 degree fittings in the truck and they will just go around it. 4 Oh you wanted us to pull the pull line back through when we pulled the snake out so you can use this pipe next week? 5. The opening band that got here at noon want to pull their lighting snake through even tough their set is at 5pm in direct sunlight and there are 100 movers at their disposal so they decide that pipe is plenty big and there is what seems to be a pull line so they just pull over top of the loom in there. Seems easy right? 6 The guy who has to pay for it realizes the one 12" PVC coupler is $96 and a T is $220 and the 45 degree is $150 and then you need 400' of pipe to have only 2 runs so he puts in 2- 6' pipes and tells you to make it work Just make everything wireless right? Thank you for your thoughts,comments and great ideas Will [/QUOTE]
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