Need Nexo PS-10 mains / LS600 subs advice.

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Bob Dodge

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Hi guys,

I recently had a brief "encounter" with a fabulous-sounding little Nexo system; comprised of a pair of PS-10's, over Nexo LS600subs, and powered by the Nexo NEXAMP4X4 4-channel amp/DSP. It seems to me that this would be a terrific portable system for small gigs, especially for all acoustic-guitar/singer-songwriter type gigs, or jazz combos. I am SO tempted, but we're talking some serious cash here.

My problem is, I have no idea what a rig like this sells for at "street" prices. My dealer has offered me what seems to be a pretty decent deal, but I'd like to hear from you folks what you'd think this system is worth. I've found it quite difficult to get pricing on this stuff. I'm told that the MSRP on the 4-channel amp/DSP alone, is $10,700. (roughly). I've been offered a "store demo" package, for $14k. Canadian (with tax, just over $16.k) That's two LS600 subs, two PS-10's, and the NEXANP4X4.

Thanks'

Bob
 
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Re: Need Nexo PS-10 mains / LS600 subs advice.

just an idea, but you dont need the nexo amp, although it is a fantastic amp. you could look for a new or used processor and use existing amps. In that scenerio you could be under $6k for tops and subs and processor new and well under that used. maybe even consider the ps10 series 1 and ls500 which arent quite as good but still an awesome little system.
 
Re: Need Nexo PS-10 mains / LS600 subs advice.

Brian Frost said:
just an idea, but you dont need the nexo amp, although it is a fantastic amp. you could look for a new or used processor and use existing amps. In that scenerio you could be under $6k for tops and subs and processor new and well under that used. maybe even consider the ps10 series 1 and ls500 which arent quite as good but still an awesome little system.
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I've considered that Brian. I really hadn't planned on buying any new gear this year, so all of this has kinda caught me off guard. My dealer has to return these systems by tomorrow (Friday, March 1st), so, he called to make the offer.

The problem with mixing components is, you don't necessarily get the processors "sensing" capability, which continuously monitors voice-coil temperature, excursion, and voltage. The system is capable of phenomenal dynamic-range, as long as the correct components are working together. If you damage the speakers by using unauthorized components, the guarantee is voided.

I was talking with a guy in the U'K., who uses the PS10TD R2 analogue processor, into a powered mixer, driving his PS10's. He also uses an FBT active sub, and he's very happy with the results.

My "thing" is, I don't know that I want to "lock in" to a single system. The Nexo NEXAMP4X4, would allow me to do future upgrades (PS15 mains and RS15 subs for example) without having to change the amp/processor.
 
Re: Need Nexo PS-10 mains / LS600 subs advice.

Bob Dodge said:
The problem with mixing components is, you don't necessarily get the processors "sensing" capability
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It doesn't matter if you are using the analog processors, NX241, or NX242... when using the NEXO loudspeakers, you MUST connect the amplifier output to the sense inputs on the controller. ALL the controllers have sense inputs.
 
Re: Need Nexo PS-10 mains / LS600 subs advice.

Josh Millward said:
It doesn't matter if you are using the analog processors, NX241, or NX242... when using the NEXO loudspeakers, you MUST connect the amplifier output to the sense inputs on the controller. ALL the controllers have sense inputs.
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Thanks Josh.

I need to research this "sensing" thing a little more deeply. The store where I saw the Nexo's, only had the NEXAMP4X4 plus various Nexo speakers on demo, and the Nexo line was/is brand new to them. The store had none of the analogue processors available. My understanding was that the amp had to have 2-way sensing capabilities, in order to monitor excursion and voice-coil temperature in the speakers, and simultaneously transmit that data to the processor,,,,, or would that be the case solely with the digital processor?.

Let's assume I were to buy only the PS-10's for now,,,and ran them full-range (no subs) for small all-acoustic guitar/vocal events. What Nexo processor/ amp combo would you recommend? I own powered subs at the moment; LS720P's and LS801P's, but I typically don't need or use subs for this particular application.
 
Re: Need Nexo PS-10 mains / LS600 subs advice.

i personally like the ps10td analog controller unless you are building a full compliment of nexo speaker systems then getting a 242 makes a lot more sense. Ive been using qsc pl236 amps with my little nexo rigs plenty. They take and like a good bit of power per box, but will sound quite good with just the nexo tops and a line out of the processor to one of your yorkville subs.
 
Re: Need Nexo PS-10 mains / LS600 subs advice.

Bob,

The output of the amplifier in a NEXO system goes two places, to the loudspeaker loads AND to the processor. This is how the processor is able to monitor the loudspeakers, it has nothing at all to do with the amplifiers. Normally, the processor and amplifier live in the same rack together and remain wired up together all the time.

You should note, if you are using the analog processors, you MUST use amplifiers with 26dB gain. However, if you are using the NX242 or NX241, you can use pretty much any amplifier and dial in the settings for that amp.

If you are looking to just get the PS-10's only for now, I would look into finding an Analog controller, then add whatever amp you like that has 26dB gain. However, if you are thinking about adding the subwoofer in the future, I know NEXO used to make an integrated analog controller and amplifier for the PS-10's with mono sub specifically (they also had one for the PS-8's with mono sub). But, with the advent of the NEXO 4x4 and 4x1 amplifiers, they may have canned those amps and you may have a tough time finding something like that used.

If I were doing what you are doing, I would probably try to find a used NX241 or NX242 and buy a new Crest Audio Pro 9200 power amplifier. Then, when you want to add NEXO subs later, you can just add another Pro 9200 for sub duty. In the mean time, you can run your L & R into your inputs on your rack for the NEXO processor, and use a Y cable on the main L & R for your powered sub. Or, of course, if you are doing Sub on Aux, you can just connect your powered subs to that.

Whatever you do, you absolutely NEED to set up your processors correctly. Too many people think they can "out-smart" the system by setting the processors differently than the recommended settings. This is a great way to break things and make the rig not sound as good as it possibly can. Those french guys are kind of weird but if you follow the directions, the NEXO stuff sounds totally amazing. I think they are the best sounding passive pro loudspeakers I've ever heard.
 
Re: Need Nexo PS-10 mains / LS600 subs advice.

Thanks Josh,

You've given me some options to consider, so I'll continue doing a little more research. I became aware of the 26dB amplifier gain restriction, when I was looking into the PS10TD R2 processor. I haven't looked at either of the NX241 or 242's yet, nor the NEXAMP4X1. Fortunately for me, the sale pressures' somewhat backed off now. The "deal" that I had originally been offered, I allowed to expire today. I wanna get this done "right".
 
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