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<blockquote data-quote="Andrew Prince" data-source="post: 90791" data-attributes="member: 1808">Re: New Behringer iQ series networked speaker lineupIndeed I do. I think you&#039;re further up the food chain than you realise. I mean, we have something in common in what we do which is basically offering our audiences more than they pay for. When you consider the time, money and effort that goes into these gigs the financial payback doesn&#039;t justify it. However, we don&#039;t do this for money which is why we run £2k+ digital consoles and digital multicores. We put improving the show above everything else.I&#039;m not saying it will cause you problems or even that it will cause me problems. I personally don&#039;t use Ultranet on my X32. I don&#039;t have any S16&#039;s either. I&#039;m running a 24/8 copper snake. I cannot justify the spend required to upgrade to a digital multicore when I already own a more than capable multicore, just because it&#039;s a little bit of a bugger to coil and transport. I probably need the exercise anyway.All I&#039;m really saying is, as an engineer I have yet to experience any issues with simply running analogue foldback using the direct outs, with the guys on stage using tried and trusted hand signals to tell me what they want or fiddling with their iPads / iPhones (mainly during sound check). I could buy five P16&#039;s but I think I&#039;d be wasting my money. That is to say, the money would be much better spent on something else, like decent drum mics or proper IEM&#039;s.As a drummer, I have zero experience of using the P16&#039;s so I cannot say for sure. BUT, as a drummer I have used headphones and with a submix, it&#039;s impossible to get it right without involving the FoH or monitor engineer. In which case, why am I bothering with P16?If you already have them, then I guess there is very little to dislike and a wholly good reason to use them with the X32. I&#039;m sure you&#039;re right - the S16&#039;s are wonderful. Maybe when I&#039;ve got a spare couple of grand lying around and I have nothing better to spend it on.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />As always, it&#039;s about the sound they produce. Ultranet doesn&#039;t make diddly squat difference to how it sounds methinks. Are these iQ boxes REALLY that expensive? If they are, I&#039;m disappointed.I doubt the iQ stuff will outperform our JBL SRX system. Those JBL&#039;s just keep on surprising me at every gig. The problem I have is, I&#039;d like my own PA. One of these days, I&#039;ll buy a van and some boxes and I&#039;ll do some cool PA jobs, just for fun (because it&#039;s impossible to make real money doing this). Ideally, I&#039;d use the bands JBL SRX system and buy the other half of it back so that I could run four subs and four tops. The PA as it stands doesn&#039;t give me any useable headroom with the band (using two subs and two tops).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Andrew Prince, post: 90791, member: 1808"] Re: New Behringer iQ series networked speaker lineup Indeed I do. I think you're further up the food chain than you realise. I mean, we have something in common in what we do which is basically offering our audiences more than they pay for. When you consider the time, money and effort that goes into these gigs the financial payback doesn't justify it. However, we don't do this for money which is why we run £2k+ digital consoles and digital multicores. We put improving the show above everything else. I'm not saying it will cause you problems or even that it will cause me problems. I personally don't use Ultranet on my X32. I don't have any S16's either. I'm running a 24/8 copper snake. I cannot justify the spend required to upgrade to a digital multicore when I already own a more than capable multicore, just because it's a little bit of a bugger to coil and transport. I probably need the exercise anyway. All I'm really saying is, as an engineer I have yet to experience any issues with simply running analogue foldback using the direct outs, with the guys on stage using tried and trusted hand signals to tell me what they want or fiddling with their iPads / iPhones (mainly during sound check). I could buy five P16's but I think I'd be wasting my money. That is to say, the money would be much better spent on something else, like decent drum mics or proper IEM's. As a drummer, I have zero experience of using the P16's so I cannot say for sure. BUT, as a drummer I have used headphones and with a submix, it's impossible to get it right without involving the FoH or monitor engineer. In which case, why am I bothering with P16? If you already have them, then I guess there is very little to dislike and a wholly good reason to use them with the X32. I'm sure you're right - the S16's are wonderful. Maybe when I've got a spare couple of grand lying around and I have nothing better to spend it on. :) As always, it's about the sound they produce. Ultranet doesn't make diddly squat difference to how it sounds methinks. Are these iQ boxes REALLY that expensive? If they are, I'm disappointed. I doubt the iQ stuff will outperform our JBL SRX system. Those JBL's just keep on surprising me at every gig. The problem I have is, I'd like my own PA. One of these days, I'll buy a van and some boxes and I'll do some cool PA jobs, just for fun (because it's impossible to make real money doing this). Ideally, I'd use the bands JBL SRX system and buy the other half of it back so that I could run four subs and four tops. The PA as it stands doesn't give me any useable headroom with the band (using two subs and two tops). [/QUOTE]

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