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<blockquote data-quote="Karl Barnes" data-source="post: 90795" data-attributes="member: 2121"><p>Re: New Behringer iQ series networked speaker lineup</p><p></p><p>Andrew,</p><p></p><p>We got our S16's to stop the guys on the stage giving out hand signals!</p><p>It was also too much hassle coiling up 2 x 16/4 snakes at the end of the night.</p><p>It would take ages as they were so heavy.</p><p>Using the S16's has saved time as well as space in the truck. Don't forget, it's only one connection at the desk end, not 40.</p><p>The hassle factor was what spurred me into getting the S16's (I pre-ordered from Thomann before they put the prices up 8)~<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt="8-)" title="Cool 8-)" data-smilie="6"data-shortname="8-)" />~<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" />)</p><p>As for iPads, I never had reason to own one before the X32. After trying one out at a gig, I went and bought one, just for the XiControl software.</p><p>It's very useful.</p><p></p><p>Before we got the X32 and the P16-M's, the guys were still using IEMs, but it was a bodge. A stereo feed from two aux channels was sent to a 5 way splitter which then went out to each band member, to a Rolls PM351. Their instrument DIs would split out to FOH and local submixers which fed the PM351 instrument inputs. Vocal mics would then go into the PM351 and the THRU to FOH. Complicated? Yes, but each band member had 'more me' available to them.</p><p>All they had to agree on was the basic mix. Suffice so say, that was always a compromise.</p><p>The PM16-Ms are an extension of this.</p><p>They are simpler to set up and therefore quicker. Each band member now has more control over what they can hear.</p><p>Tapping into their boxes during soundchecks, it's interesting to hear the differences between the mixes.</p><p>Now they each get what they want.</p><p></p><p>Back to the IQ speakers (which is what this thread is about; didn't want to hijack it. Not too much anyway....!), I am only speculating about the UK pricing.</p><p>But based on previous experience, the $ price usually ends up being the same as the £ price. Check out some prices at Sweetwater and compare them to DV247, Studiospares, etc on various things. You'll see the trend for yourself.</p><p></p><p>From my point of view, the guys in the band are seriously considering pulling the trigger on a fairly large system.</p><p>Price and sound quality are the defining factors.</p><p>With the X32 being around a third of the price of the comparitively featured LS9-32, yet it outperforms it (imo), would it be unreasonable to assume that they've done the same with their new speaker range?</p><p>Are the IQ's the same or better sounding than SRX's, yet a third of the price?</p><p>Time will tell, but the price and sound quality would have to be right for them to be considered, when looked at against the competition.</p><p></p><p>As I've said before, the X32 may have changed the game for mixing desks, but can the IQ speakers do the same in that part of the market?</p><p>Then again, is that Behringers intention?</p><p>I don't know their business plan in that regard.</p><p></p><p>Karl.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Karl Barnes, post: 90795, member: 2121"] Re: New Behringer iQ series networked speaker lineup Andrew, We got our S16's to stop the guys on the stage giving out hand signals! It was also too much hassle coiling up 2 x 16/4 snakes at the end of the night. It would take ages as they were so heavy. Using the S16's has saved time as well as space in the truck. Don't forget, it's only one connection at the desk end, not 40. The hassle factor was what spurred me into getting the S16's (I pre-ordered from Thomann before they put the prices up 8)~8-)~:cool:) As for iPads, I never had reason to own one before the X32. After trying one out at a gig, I went and bought one, just for the XiControl software. It's very useful. Before we got the X32 and the P16-M's, the guys were still using IEMs, but it was a bodge. A stereo feed from two aux channels was sent to a 5 way splitter which then went out to each band member, to a Rolls PM351. Their instrument DIs would split out to FOH and local submixers which fed the PM351 instrument inputs. Vocal mics would then go into the PM351 and the THRU to FOH. Complicated? Yes, but each band member had 'more me' available to them. All they had to agree on was the basic mix. Suffice so say, that was always a compromise. The PM16-Ms are an extension of this. They are simpler to set up and therefore quicker. Each band member now has more control over what they can hear. Tapping into their boxes during soundchecks, it's interesting to hear the differences between the mixes. Now they each get what they want. Back to the IQ speakers (which is what this thread is about; didn't want to hijack it. Not too much anyway....!), I am only speculating about the UK pricing. But based on previous experience, the $ price usually ends up being the same as the £ price. Check out some prices at Sweetwater and compare them to DV247, Studiospares, etc on various things. You'll see the trend for yourself. From my point of view, the guys in the band are seriously considering pulling the trigger on a fairly large system. Price and sound quality are the defining factors. With the X32 being around a third of the price of the comparitively featured LS9-32, yet it outperforms it (imo), would it be unreasonable to assume that they've done the same with their new speaker range? Are the IQ's the same or better sounding than SRX's, yet a third of the price? Time will tell, but the price and sound quality would have to be right for them to be considered, when looked at against the competition. As I've said before, the X32 may have changed the game for mixing desks, but can the IQ speakers do the same in that part of the market? Then again, is that Behringers intention? I don't know their business plan in that regard. Karl. [/QUOTE]
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