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New DIY Mid High (90deg) - AKA PM90
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<blockquote data-quote="Ivan Beaver" data-source="post: 137636" data-attributes="member: 30"><p>Re: New DIY Mid High</p><p></p><p></p><p>It all depends on what the ratio of mid/hi to sub energy is. Different people like different amounts.</p><p></p><p>My experience is that after "adjusting by ear" a system (basically turning up the subs until it sounds "right"), and then measuring the system, the subs are in the range of 25-30dB louder than the full range cabinets for EDM style music.</p><p></p><p>So basically below 100Hzish it is 25-30 dB louder than above. Of course there is a big slope around 100Hz ish, so lets say above 300hz vs below 90Hz.</p><p></p><p>I know this sounds extreme-but I have done it a number of different times-with different people-on different systems in different places.</p><p></p><p>So as you can see-you need A WHOLE LOT more sub output than full range output-for that type of music-to be represented in the way the artists want it.</p><p></p><p>Of course many times people simply don't have enough sub to "outrun" the tops, so the ratio is lower and they just live with it.</p><p></p><p>But when "given the choice" a wide variety of people in the US like that.</p><p></p><p>I use that as a "starting point" for suggesting sub to top output range.</p><p></p><p>So for a top that is 130dB, you should be looking at sub outputs in the 155-160dB range-IF you are going to run the tops at full level.</p><p></p><p>And remember that the average level as read on a meter is going to be 10-15dB lower than the peak calculations.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ivan Beaver, post: 137636, member: 30"] Re: New DIY Mid High It all depends on what the ratio of mid/hi to sub energy is. Different people like different amounts. My experience is that after "adjusting by ear" a system (basically turning up the subs until it sounds "right"), and then measuring the system, the subs are in the range of 25-30dB louder than the full range cabinets for EDM style music. So basically below 100Hzish it is 25-30 dB louder than above. Of course there is a big slope around 100Hz ish, so lets say above 300hz vs below 90Hz. I know this sounds extreme-but I have done it a number of different times-with different people-on different systems in different places. So as you can see-you need A WHOLE LOT more sub output than full range output-for that type of music-to be represented in the way the artists want it. Of course many times people simply don't have enough sub to "outrun" the tops, so the ratio is lower and they just live with it. But when "given the choice" a wide variety of people in the US like that. I use that as a "starting point" for suggesting sub to top output range. So for a top that is 130dB, you should be looking at sub outputs in the 155-160dB range-IF you are going to run the tops at full level. And remember that the average level as read on a meter is going to be 10-15dB lower than the peak calculations. [/QUOTE]
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