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<blockquote data-quote="Ivan Beaver" data-source="post: 137908" data-attributes="member: 30"><p>Re: New DIY Mid High</p><p></p><p></p><p>Where was this event held? I am curious who attended-as I have not heard anything about it except here. Do you remember the name of the person who was there? I am not aware of all the demos that go on-just some of them.</p><p></p><p>The "voicing" of a system is an interesting debate. Often one that is flat and accurate (which is great for a live band) may not "sound" proper when listening to prerecorded music-especially at high SPL levels. In a live situation often the 3K "bite" would be removed from the offending channel strips. But in prerecorded music, all we have access to is the "voicing" of the system. For live music I always go for flat. For DJ type events that is different.</p><p></p><p>The excessive low freq capability of the J1-94 is not a matter of "voicing", but rather an indication of the CAPABILITY of the cabinet-VERY different things.</p><p></p><p>In just about any popular music event-the low freq system needs to be able to "outrun" the mid/high section by at least 10dB, and often 15dB.</p><p></p><p>I have done metal bands outdoors with just a single J1 per side-no subs. There is NO WAY I could do that with a system that had the lows having the same output as the mid highs.</p><p></p><p>The J1s are used in quite a few stadiums (often just 1 or 2) without any subs and provide plenty of low end.</p><p></p><p>I would add that the quote from the spec sheet was at the time the J1 was introduced. That of course has changed with other products such as the J5 (Caleb). If that bothers you-would you PLEASE call the office and speak to Cooper about it. Often the office gets tired of me bringing up things like that <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>The Jericho speakers are all part of a series of high output (think in Biblical terms of the walls of Jericho).</p><p></p><p>As I stated earlier, they both use 6x18 drivers, but the drivers are different, the alignment/tuning is different (the J2 goes lower and the J1 goes MUCH louder)</p><p></p><p>For many applications (especially that are loud), I suggest subs with the J2. But for other applications it is fine.</p><p></p><p>The J2 (due to its larger horn), has pattern control down lower. This is really good for large indoor applications, such as arenas.</p><p></p><p>The direction the pattern faces is also different between the J1 and J2. The J2 is straight forward and the J1 is downfiring.</p><p></p><p>Basically the main difference in the Jericho models (more will coming out) is the way the HF driver combining is handled. But in all of them the idea is to combine with greater output, rather than to cancel to achieve the pattern.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ivan Beaver, post: 137908, member: 30"] Re: New DIY Mid High Where was this event held? I am curious who attended-as I have not heard anything about it except here. Do you remember the name of the person who was there? I am not aware of all the demos that go on-just some of them. The "voicing" of a system is an interesting debate. Often one that is flat and accurate (which is great for a live band) may not "sound" proper when listening to prerecorded music-especially at high SPL levels. In a live situation often the 3K "bite" would be removed from the offending channel strips. But in prerecorded music, all we have access to is the "voicing" of the system. For live music I always go for flat. For DJ type events that is different. The excessive low freq capability of the J1-94 is not a matter of "voicing", but rather an indication of the CAPABILITY of the cabinet-VERY different things. In just about any popular music event-the low freq system needs to be able to "outrun" the mid/high section by at least 10dB, and often 15dB. I have done metal bands outdoors with just a single J1 per side-no subs. There is NO WAY I could do that with a system that had the lows having the same output as the mid highs. The J1s are used in quite a few stadiums (often just 1 or 2) without any subs and provide plenty of low end. I would add that the quote from the spec sheet was at the time the J1 was introduced. That of course has changed with other products such as the J5 (Caleb). If that bothers you-would you PLEASE call the office and speak to Cooper about it. Often the office gets tired of me bringing up things like that ;) The Jericho speakers are all part of a series of high output (think in Biblical terms of the walls of Jericho). As I stated earlier, they both use 6x18 drivers, but the drivers are different, the alignment/tuning is different (the J2 goes lower and the J1 goes MUCH louder) For many applications (especially that are loud), I suggest subs with the J2. But for other applications it is fine. The J2 (due to its larger horn), has pattern control down lower. This is really good for large indoor applications, such as arenas. The direction the pattern faces is also different between the J1 and J2. The J2 is straight forward and the J1 is downfiring. Basically the main difference in the Jericho models (more will coming out) is the way the HF driver combining is handled. But in all of them the idea is to combine with greater output, rather than to cancel to achieve the pattern. [/QUOTE]
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