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<blockquote data-quote="Peter Morris" data-source="post: 138971" data-attributes="member: 652"><p>Re: New DIY Mid High</p><p></p><p>IIR processing, 700Hz crossover - frequency and phase response.</p><p></p><p>I will put the settings up as soon as I have a chance.</p><p></p><p>Peter</p><p></p><p>UPDATE ... added impulse, group delay and an unsmoothed frequency response @ 5 dB per div ...and ...</p><p></p><p>Here is my first "best guess" at some IIR settings. They have been made on a Lake LM26 in IIR mode. Your DSP may define the BW or Q slightly differently. They are the settings used for the above plot and should be somewhere near the mark. They may need a little bit of adjustment to suit your taste.</p><p></p><p>Also note that the Mid and HF have the same gain ... i.e. allowing for the impedance difference the LF is about 6 dB less sensitive than the HF.</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">GAIN - DELAY - POLARITY</span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000"></span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">VHF (16 ohm) - 1.5 dB 1.62 ms delay +ve polarity</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">HF (16 ohm) 0.0 dB 1.49 ms delay +ve polarity</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">MID (2 x 8 ohm = 4 ohm) 0.0dB 0.00 ms delay +ve polarity</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000"></span></span> </p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">VHF PEQ</span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Freq 6K85</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">BW Oct 0.55</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Gain dB +2.2</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Freq 9K62</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">BW Oct 0.38</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Gain dB - 3.5</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">HF PEQ - Crossover 6K33 24dB LR</span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Freq 890</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">BW Oct 0.22</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Gain dB -2.5</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Freq 1K15</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">BW Oct 0.67</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Gain dB -3.2</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Freq 2K1</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">BW Oct 0.27</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Gain dB -4.1</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Freq 2K88</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">BW Oct 0.44</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Gain dB -7.0</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Freq 6K98 </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">BW Oct 0.77 </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Gain dB + 6.0 </span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">MID - Crossover 700Hz 24dB LR</span></span></strong></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Freq 144 LF Shelving Filter</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">BW Oct 2.42</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">GaindB +4.5</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Freq 223</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">BW Oct 0.33</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Gain dB -1.7</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Freq 376</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">BW Oct 0.4</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Gain dB -7.0 </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Freq 394</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">BW Oct 0.21</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Gain dB - 2.1</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Freq 564</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">BW Oct 0.33</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Gain dB -2.4</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Q - Bandwidth converter</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000"><a href="https://soundforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=4371&d=1343451453" target="_blank">https://soundforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=4371&d=1343451453</a></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">I have include some Time / Amplitude / Magnitude plots. The last one is the FIR setting for comparison so you can see the difference compared to the IIR settings.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000"></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Peter Morris, post: 138971, member: 652"] Re: New DIY Mid High IIR processing, 700Hz crossover - frequency and phase response. I will put the settings up as soon as I have a chance. Peter UPDATE ... added impulse, group delay and an unsmoothed frequency response @ 5 dB per div ...and ... Here is my first "best guess" at some IIR settings. They have been made on a Lake LM26 in IIR mode. Your DSP may define the BW or Q slightly differently. They are the settings used for the above plot and should be somewhere near the mark. They may need a little bit of adjustment to suit your taste. Also note that the Mid and HF have the same gain ... i.e. allowing for the impedance difference the LF is about 6 dB less sensitive than the HF. [B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]GAIN - DELAY - POLARITY [/COLOR][/FONT][/B] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]VHF (16 ohm) - 1.5 dB 1.62 ms delay +ve polarity[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]HF (16 ohm) 0.0 dB 1.49 ms delay +ve polarity[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]MID (2 x 8 ohm = 4 ohm) 0.0dB 0.00 ms delay +ve polarity [/COLOR][/FONT] [B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]VHF PEQ[/COLOR][/FONT][/B] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Freq 6K85[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]BW Oct 0.55[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Gain dB +2.2[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Freq 9K62[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]BW Oct 0.38[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Gain dB - 3.5[/COLOR][/FONT] [B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]HF PEQ - Crossover 6K33 24dB LR[/COLOR][/FONT][/B] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Freq 890[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]BW Oct 0.22[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Gain dB -2.5[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Freq 1K15[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]BW Oct 0.67[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Gain dB -3.2[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Freq 2K1[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]BW Oct 0.27[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Gain dB -4.1[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Freq 2K88[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]BW Oct 0.44[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Gain dB -7.0[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Freq 6K98 [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]BW Oct 0.77 [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Gain dB + 6.0 [/COLOR][/FONT] [B][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]MID - Crossover 700Hz 24dB LR[/COLOR][/FONT][/B] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Freq 144 LF Shelving Filter[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]BW Oct 2.42[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]GaindB +4.5[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Freq 223[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]BW Oct 0.33[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Gain dB -1.7[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Freq 376[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]BW Oct 0.4[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Gain dB -7.0 [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Freq 394[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]BW Oct 0.21[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Gain dB - 2.1[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Freq 564[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]BW Oct 0.33[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Gain dB -2.4 Q - Bandwidth converter [URL]https://soundforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=4371&d=1343451453[/URL] I have include some Time / Amplitude / Magnitude plots. The last one is the FIR setting for comparison so you can see the difference compared to the IIR settings. [/COLOR][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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