New lighting technique?
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RYAN LOUDMUSIC JENKINS
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You would have gotten better talent, better song writing, better vocals and probably better lights had you gone to see The Dixie Chicks instead.
You would have gotten better talent, better song writing, better vocals and probably better lights had you gone to see The Dixie Chicks instead.
The opener was Kip Moore. All the lighting was white and aimed at the audience. Crowd blinders as wash. Some songs they were on the whole time along with strips at the back line. You could not look at the stage.
I hope Toby is more sane. We shall see soon.
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Not that new of a technique.
The uglier the band is, the more you bias the lighting toward upstage.
Some bands only have follow spots downstage. Some don't even bother with that.
Not that new of a technique.
The uglier the band is, the more you bias the lighting toward upstage.
Some bands only have follow spots downstage. Some don't even bother with that.
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Thanks for reminding me. I need to order another roll of acoustically-transparent duvetyne.
~;-)~:wink:
Thanks for reminding me. I need to order another roll of acoustically-transparent duvetyne.
~;-)~:wink:
Well, the Toby Keith performance was quite good. Still excessive use of crowd lights which made it painful to look at the stage. I wonder if these acts know they are making it hard for the fans to look at them?
Very loud. I like loud. This was stupid loud. I think the engineer has figured out how loud the rig can go and that is what he does. A speaking voice does not need to be at over 100dB(A).
The pa was very good sounding but the low freq emphasis made the kick a big thump and rendered the bass (instrument) toneless. All low mud at deafening levels. You could not tell that the bass player was actually playing more than one note on his 6 string bass.
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Very loud. I like loud. This was stupid loud. I think the engineer has figured out how loud the rig can go and that is what he does. A speaking voice does not need to be at over 100dB(A).
The pa was very good sounding but the low freq emphasis made the kick a big thump and rendered the bass (instrument) toneless. All low mud at deafening levels. You could not tell that the bass player was actually playing more than one note on his 6 string bass.
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So you're saying that he had 5 strings more than he needed? These shows are all about wanton excess!
So you're saying that he had 5 strings more than he needed? These shows are all about wanton excess!
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I like loud too, but agree that many shows are TOO loud.
I really think mixing too loud is sometimes used as a crutch by engineers. Rather than trying to deal with bad acoustics or other circumstances that would require some major finesse, they just load their show file, crank it, and give the kick drum the star treatment.
Mixing loud is comparatively much easier IMHO than the opposite. Of course that doesn't really address your 1 note bass comment - a healthy boost around 800 is sometimes helpful for bass clarity, though there certainly could have been MANY factors contributing to this.
Re the blinders lighting technique, if you want a rant, just ask the video guys/camera operators what they think of them! See this example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCu1or4Kiio (warning, you may be distracted by the ridiculously talented bass player)
I like loud too, but agree that many shows are TOO loud.
I really think mixing too loud is sometimes used as a crutch by engineers. Rather than trying to deal with bad acoustics or other circumstances that would require some major finesse, they just load their show file, crank it, and give the kick drum the star treatment.
Mixing loud is comparatively much easier IMHO than the opposite. Of course that doesn't really address your 1 note bass comment - a healthy boost around 800 is sometimes helpful for bass clarity, though there certainly could have been MANY factors contributing to this.
Re the blinders lighting technique, if you want a rant, just ask the video guys/camera operators what they think of them! See this example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCu1or4Kiio (warning, you may be distracted by the ridiculously talented bass player)
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Tonight I saw Derks Bentley. Audio was much better and not stupid loud.
There was only a few times that the crowd got truly blinded. Most often, they would come up to bright and then dim some (sum?) right away.
The movers pointing into the crowd were annoying but happened infrequently enough to be ok.
The imag got washed out several times.
FOH was a big analog desk. I don't know which though.
One of the venues (Summerfest Park) had a ground stack of 4 L-acoustics boxes each side. Sounded ok though I think the band could have used more talent.
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There was only a few times that the crowd got truly blinded. Most often, they would come up to bright and then dim some (sum?) right away.
The movers pointing into the crowd were annoying but happened infrequently enough to be ok.
The imag got washed out several times.
FOH was a big analog desk. I don't know which though.
One of the venues (Summerfest Park) had a ground stack of 4 L-acoustics boxes each side. Sounded ok though I think the band could have used more talent.
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A couple of years ago the analog fog was from clair Nashville. I think the board may have been a crest but I m not sure. They had a boatload of outboard with them but dierks was doing the acoustic set embedded in the rest of the electric show.
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I saw Toby twice.Both times outdoors and while it was loud,it wasn't stupid loud.It was very well balanced.But that was 5 or 6 years ago so maybe he got some one new at FOH.
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Not to swerve, but I have also seen Toby Keith several times(One was when he came to Afghanistan and played for us so that doesnt count as a full blown concert). Its never been insanely loud, I too wonder if he has a new guy.
I also agree with Jeff, Mixing loud is easier then mixing quite. Anyone can turn anything up.
Not to swerve, but I have also seen Toby Keith several times(One was when he came to Afghanistan and played for us so that doesnt count as a full blown concert). Its never been insanely loud, I too wonder if he has a new guy.
I also agree with Jeff, Mixing loud is easier then mixing quite. Anyone can turn anything up.
It might have been a Crest. It didn't look like a Midas but I couldn't get close enough to tell.
The Toby Keith show was in a shed amphitheater. I had center row AA seats and was blinded and deafened.
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Pugs has Dierks & co. on an H3K with a nice double wide full of toys. Chris (Reade) is the LD and a great designer as well. Both are great guys to work with - ran into them on the festival circuit this summer.
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You sure that they didn't just have the light plot upside down when they hung the lights?
You sure that they didn't just have the light plot upside down when they hung the lights?