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<blockquote data-quote="harrybrilljr" data-source="post: 116991" data-attributes="member: 103">Re: New Midas M32 ConsoleNot for recording purposes.&nbsp; For use with the Dugan.&nbsp; The Dugan is on my Mac.&nbsp; It works great.&nbsp; Now I&#039;m trying to find a way to use more than the 8 channels my I/O has.I&#039;m curious how you use post fader outputs. I feed all of those things you mentioned via aux or matrices.I don&#039;t want to burn up channels or inputs to have 2 inserts per channel.&nbsp; It&#039;s just software.&nbsp; You are literally just taking data from a point and sending it to the computer, then returning it to that point from the computer.&nbsp; The number of AD and DA remains the same.&nbsp; In fact it&#039;s odd to me that Yamaha has this limitation of 16 channels each way on the SLOTs.&nbsp; I think there should be a USB, FW, TB, or RJ45 connection on every digital desk that allows any input or output to be to or from the computer.&nbsp; I don&#039;t see what is so complex about it.&nbsp; Waves makes a MADI box that delivers 128 channels into the computer both ways.&nbsp; It&#039;s about the size of most large cell phones are today.&nbsp; Lists for about $2200.&nbsp; That means to me that dealer is about half that, and that means manufacturing is probably close to $500. cost and they are a software company so they have to be outsourcing.&nbsp; Why can&#039;t all of these manufacturers have this capability built in?&nbsp; You not only have the option of a so called virtual soundcheck, you also can use any number of plugins, and as you mentioned, routing into a com system, webcast, etc would be really easy.&nbsp; Recording and playback is the most obvious general use and that&#039;s what is going to drive the product.&nbsp; We just need to convince them to allow for a post fader pick off point.In the studio 22 years ago we would prefer a post fader send to records and a post gain return when listening back or mixing down.&nbsp; Recording desks were usually made this way.&nbsp; Live desks usually want post gain so we can record the raw sound and fix it later.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="harrybrilljr, post: 116991, member: 103"] Re: New Midas M32 Console Not for recording purposes. For use with the Dugan. The Dugan is on my Mac. It works great. Now I'm trying to find a way to use more than the 8 channels my I/O has. I'm curious how you use post fader outputs. I feed all of those things you mentioned via aux or matrices. I don't want to burn up channels or inputs to have 2 inserts per channel. It's just software. You are literally just taking data from a point and sending it to the computer, then returning it to that point from the computer. The number of AD and DA remains the same. In fact it's odd to me that Yamaha has this limitation of 16 channels each way on the SLOTs. I think there should be a USB, FW, TB, or RJ45 connection on every digital desk that allows any input or output to be to or from the computer. I don't see what is so complex about it. Waves makes a MADI box that delivers 128 channels into the computer both ways. It's about the size of most large cell phones are today. Lists for about $2200. That means to me that dealer is about half that, and that means manufacturing is probably close to $500. cost and they are a software company so they have to be outsourcing. Why can't all of these manufacturers have this capability built in? You not only have the option of a so called virtual soundcheck, you also can use any number of plugins, and as you mentioned, routing into a com system, webcast, etc would be really easy. Recording and playback is the most obvious general use and that's what is going to drive the product. We just need to convince them to allow for a post fader pick off point. In the studio 22 years ago we would prefer a post fader send to records and a post gain return when listening back or mixing down. Recording desks were usually made this way. Live desks usually want post gain so we can record the raw sound and fix it later. [/QUOTE]

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