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<blockquote data-quote="Tiziano Cirillo" data-source="post: 133632" data-attributes="member: 8670"><p>M32 For STUDIO use</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Hi, </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">I am knew to this forum and I only found out via a link posted on another audio-related forum when searching for more info related to the Midas M32. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">I did browse through the 50 pages here <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> and I can see some of you had hands on experience with the M32. I also see some Midas people posted some useful replies which is great. Because of this I hope I could post my questions below with the hope that some of you with experience/knowledge of the M32 and maybe Midas people could give me some answers. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><strong>I am considering ordering an M32 but I have a few doubts (lack of knowledge) I need to clarify first</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">I am considering the Midas M32 as a Console/Interface solution for my <strong>home studio</strong>. </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">NOTE: In may case the primary use is <strong><span style="color: #ff0000">NOT a FOH setup</span></strong> but I would be using the M32 to:</span></span></span></p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Have my hardware synths connected</span></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Have the option to record one live instrument at the time if needed, maybe 2 at the same time max, a drum set at times. This use for tracking/recording live instruments would not be frequent. </span></span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Have the option to take my setup outside if I ever decide to perform a gig with the advantage of using the same console for live use or rent the exact same one therefore being familiar with it. Again this would be not a primary concern but a nice option to have. </span></span></li> </ul><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">My expectations</span></p><p></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Have all my hardware sound-sources permanently connected to the M32. Let’s say 20 Inputs</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Have some of the 14 Outputs on the M32 (15/16 carry Main Stereo but probably this can be changed in the settings) permanently connected to Mono or<br /> Stereo Inputs of a couple of my Synths featuring Input to process audio with analogue filters… This is to for example send the Output of a digital synth to M32 Input-1 then route this channel to M32 Output11 which connects to the Input on an analogue synth which in turn is already connected to M32 Input 2.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">For point 2 above I assume I can set any M32 Input to go to any M32 Output</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Each of the M32 32 mixing channels has dedicated individual channel strip digital EQ/Compressor/Gate… Confused here because specs say: “<em>Internal Effects Engines (True Stereo / Mono) = 16</em>”. So does it have 16 channels strips each with EQ/Comp/gate or 32? Maybe 32 as in 16 stereo? <br /> I think it does have EQ/Comp/Gate on each of the 32 channels and the 16 Effects Engines refers to the actual Effects like Chorus/Reverb/Virtual Pultec EQP-1a, etc…</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Effects Engines: In the spec-tables it says 16 as per point 4 above. On the website list of main features it says: “8 stereo signal processing effects engines”. Which one is it? 16 or 8 or is it 16 plus 8 of a different type?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">EQ on each channel- Is this the same digital EQ as implemented on the Midas Pro consoles? Or is it a different code maybe just the same as in the X32?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Monitor Control Room: I can see that there is no Sub Bass management, that means I would need to use Left/Right into my Sub which then has Left and Right outs and Sub Freq Settings. <br /> - But the M32 Monitor Control Room Out has both Jack and XLR sets of outs… Can I have a different mix for each set of outputs or are they identical?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Is any of you using the M32 in a studio and using the built in Monitor Control Room Out? Is it good? or would you still buy a dedicated Monitor Control Solution?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Standard 32 x 32 channel USB 2.0 audio interface. Has anyone been using this with a MAC PRO and/or MacBookPro running Logic Pro X? Any problem?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">DAW remote control emulations (Makie/HUI) - How well does it work with Logic Pro X? Any problem?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Assign Section. 36 fully customizable controls on three layers. Can you set any of these custom-controls to control anything at all in your DAW/Plugins? Or are these only to control M32's own parameters? (still good even if just for the M32 of course)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">32 x 32 channel USB 2.0 audio interface. I assume that on the M32 I can choose which M32 Channel Strip Input is receiving audio signal from an Hardware Synth and which M32 Channel Strip Input is receiving audio signal from a Logic Channel (Plug In Synth / Audio File)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Industry-Leading design by Bentley Motors Designer. I assume the packaging will include a cast iron Bentley Badge to use as paper weight. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">25 time-aligned and phase-coherent mix buses. Is this the same feature are described and implemented for the Midas Pro series? <br /> Midas Pro phase coherent description: “…compensation for additional A/D & D/A conversions required when connecting external analogue inserts. This means that all audio samples are synchronised before summing, resulting in absolute phase coherency at all outputs.”</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">192 Khz ADC/DAC + Midas Pro Preamps + standard 32x32 USB 2.0 Audio Interface. <br /> Are you happy in a studio environment (not live FOH use) with the quality of tracking/recording/monitoring you can achieve with the M32 on its own? or do you still feel the need to use alterative interfaces like Apogee Symphony or the more affordable Antelope Orion 32?<br /> - This would be for all sort of genres, from electronic music genres to Computer Based orchestral soundtracks to hardware synths, some live instrument, voice, drums…</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">It was pointed out that the M32’s fan is located on the bottom of the desk, and the need to ensue there is sufficient space underneath to allow for some airflow. Does the console come with built in ‘feet’ so that it has some bottom-clearance when placed on a normal office Desk? Or does it need empty space underneath somehow.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">M32’s cooling fan. Is it too noisy for studio use?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">In terms of what defines the final audio quality/midas sound, is the 96Khz of the Midas Pro the only/main difference between a Midas Pro 1 and an M32 (48Khz)? <br /> Or <br /> Do Midas Pro series consoles run on more powerful processors and run more advanced and processor-intensive software, higher quality EQ/Effects/Dynamics… ?<br /> <br /> Of course like many I looked at the Pro1 and Pro 2. The Pro2 is way out of budget for my needs. The Pro1 would need at least an additional Input Box to get close to the 32 Inputs I want/M32 offers (assuming I don’t want to use patch-bay)… therefore the Pro1 + Input Box would again be out of budget for my needs…</li> </ol><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'">THANK YOU VERY MUCH if you had the time to look even at only some of my questions!!!</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tiziano Cirillo, post: 133632, member: 8670"] M32 For STUDIO use [SIZE=2][FONT=arial]Hi, I am knew to this forum and I only found out via a link posted on another audio-related forum when searching for more info related to the Midas M32. I did browse through the 50 pages here :) and I can see some of you had hands on experience with the M32. I also see some Midas people posted some useful replies which is great. Because of this I hope I could post my questions below with the hope that some of you with experience/knowledge of the M32 and maybe Midas people could give me some answers. [B]I am considering ordering an M32 but I have a few doubts (lack of knowledge) I need to clarify first[/B] [/FONT][/SIZE][FONT=Helvetica][SIZE=2][FONT=arial]I am considering the Midas M32 as a Console/Interface solution for my [B]home studio[/B]. [/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Helvetica][SIZE=2][FONT=arial]NOTE: In may case the primary use is [B][COLOR=#ff0000]NOT a FOH setup[/COLOR][/B] but I would be using the M32 to:[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [LIST] [*][SIZE=2][FONT=arial]Have my hardware synths connected[/FONT][/SIZE] [*][SIZE=2][FONT=arial]Have the option to record one live instrument at the time if needed, maybe 2 at the same time max, a drum set at times. This use for tracking/recording live instruments would not be frequent. [/FONT][/SIZE] [*][SIZE=2][FONT=arial]Have the option to take my setup outside if I ever decide to perform a gig with the advantage of using the same console for live use or rent the exact same one therefore being familiar with it. Again this would be not a primary concern but a nice option to have. [/FONT][/SIZE] [/LIST] [FONT=Helvetica]My expectations[/FONT] [LIST=1] [*]Have all my hardware sound-sources permanently connected to the M32. Let’s say 20 Inputs [*]Have some of the 14 Outputs on the M32 (15/16 carry Main Stereo but probably this can be changed in the settings) permanently connected to Mono or Stereo Inputs of a couple of my Synths featuring Input to process audio with analogue filters… This is to for example send the Output of a digital synth to M32 Input-1 then route this channel to M32 Output11 which connects to the Input on an analogue synth which in turn is already connected to M32 Input 2. [*]For point 2 above I assume I can set any M32 Input to go to any M32 Output [*]Each of the M32 32 mixing channels has dedicated individual channel strip digital EQ/Compressor/Gate… Confused here because specs say: “[I]Internal Effects Engines (True Stereo / Mono) = 16[/I]”. So does it have 16 channels strips each with EQ/Comp/gate or 32? Maybe 32 as in 16 stereo? I think it does have EQ/Comp/Gate on each of the 32 channels and the 16 Effects Engines refers to the actual Effects like Chorus/Reverb/Virtual Pultec EQP-1a, etc… [*]Effects Engines: In the spec-tables it says 16 as per point 4 above. On the website list of main features it says: “8 stereo signal processing effects engines”. Which one is it? 16 or 8 or is it 16 plus 8 of a different type? [*]EQ on each channel- Is this the same digital EQ as implemented on the Midas Pro consoles? Or is it a different code maybe just the same as in the X32? [*]Monitor Control Room: I can see that there is no Sub Bass management, that means I would need to use Left/Right into my Sub which then has Left and Right outs and Sub Freq Settings. - But the M32 Monitor Control Room Out has both Jack and XLR sets of outs… Can I have a different mix for each set of outputs or are they identical? [*]Is any of you using the M32 in a studio and using the built in Monitor Control Room Out? Is it good? or would you still buy a dedicated Monitor Control Solution? [*]Standard 32 x 32 channel USB 2.0 audio interface. Has anyone been using this with a MAC PRO and/or MacBookPro running Logic Pro X? Any problem? [*]DAW remote control emulations (Makie/HUI) - How well does it work with Logic Pro X? Any problem? [*]Assign Section. 36 fully customizable controls on three layers. Can you set any of these custom-controls to control anything at all in your DAW/Plugins? Or are these only to control M32's own parameters? (still good even if just for the M32 of course) [*]32 x 32 channel USB 2.0 audio interface. I assume that on the M32 I can choose which M32 Channel Strip Input is receiving audio signal from an Hardware Synth and which M32 Channel Strip Input is receiving audio signal from a Logic Channel (Plug In Synth / Audio File) [*]Industry-Leading design by Bentley Motors Designer. I assume the packaging will include a cast iron Bentley Badge to use as paper weight. :) [*]25 time-aligned and phase-coherent mix buses. Is this the same feature are described and implemented for the Midas Pro series? Midas Pro phase coherent description: “…compensation for additional A/D & D/A conversions required when connecting external analogue inserts. This means that all audio samples are synchronised before summing, resulting in absolute phase coherency at all outputs.” [*]192 Khz ADC/DAC + Midas Pro Preamps + standard 32x32 USB 2.0 Audio Interface. Are you happy in a studio environment (not live FOH use) with the quality of tracking/recording/monitoring you can achieve with the M32 on its own? or do you still feel the need to use alterative interfaces like Apogee Symphony or the more affordable Antelope Orion 32? - This would be for all sort of genres, from electronic music genres to Computer Based orchestral soundtracks to hardware synths, some live instrument, voice, drums… [*]It was pointed out that the M32’s fan is located on the bottom of the desk, and the need to ensue there is sufficient space underneath to allow for some airflow. Does the console come with built in ‘feet’ so that it has some bottom-clearance when placed on a normal office Desk? Or does it need empty space underneath somehow. [*]M32’s cooling fan. Is it too noisy for studio use? [*]In terms of what defines the final audio quality/midas sound, is the 96Khz of the Midas Pro the only/main difference between a Midas Pro 1 and an M32 (48Khz)? Or Do Midas Pro series consoles run on more powerful processors and run more advanced and processor-intensive software, higher quality EQ/Effects/Dynamics… ? Of course like many I looked at the Pro1 and Pro 2. The Pro2 is way out of budget for my needs. The Pro1 would need at least an additional Input Box to get close to the 32 Inputs I want/M32 offers (assuming I don’t want to use patch-bay)… therefore the Pro1 + Input Box would again be out of budget for my needs… [/LIST] [FONT=Helvetica] THANK YOU VERY MUCH if you had the time to look even at only some of my questions!!![/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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