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<blockquote data-quote="Ivan Beaver" data-source="post: 47507" data-attributes="member: 30">Re: New outdoor stage laws?!?!That is exactly what scares me.It doesn&#039;t do any good to argue with them-they are looking at other factors.You are right on target aobut not getting paid or rehired.The &quot;solution&quot; would be that somebody has to go to jail -NOW- but determining who/where the problem is-is a totally different issue.&nbsp; Did the provider not provide the proper struecture?&nbsp; Or did some last minute change cause the problem?&nbsp;&nbsp; Did the promoter not provide the proper information?..So let&#039;s say they are holding the doors for 10,000 people-and the problem will take 3 hours to &quot;fix&quot; (either going to get more structure-or lowering and rehanging something) or whatever.&nbsp; Let&#039;s assume the current problem in this case is the &quot;props&quot; the band INSISTS on hangning.The Money guy wants to open the gates and tells the band to play anyway.&nbsp; Who is going to go to jail?&nbsp; The guy who opens the gate-who would lose his job if he didn&#039;t under direct order from the promoter?&nbsp; If the sound guy kills the system-he won&#039;t get paid or rehired and the reputation.What if the band won&#039;t play if they can&#039;t have their &quot;toy&quot;.Does the provider still turns the system on-even though he may go to jail?What if the bands sound guy goes to jail for operating the system.And so forth.It would probably be rare that the actual guy ording the show must go on-that gets the blame for the problem.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ivan Beaver, post: 47507, member: 30"] Re: New outdoor stage laws?!?! That is exactly what scares me. It doesn't do any good to argue with them-they are looking at other factors. You are right on target aobut not getting paid or rehired. The "solution" would be that somebody has to go to jail -NOW- but determining who/where the problem is-is a totally different issue. Did the provider not provide the proper struecture? Or did some last minute change cause the problem? Did the promoter not provide the proper information?.. So let's say they are holding the doors for 10,000 people-and the problem will take 3 hours to "fix" (either going to get more structure-or lowering and rehanging something) or whatever. Let's assume the current problem in this case is the "props" the band INSISTS on hangning. The Money guy wants to open the gates and tells the band to play anyway. Who is going to go to jail? The guy who opens the gate-who would lose his job if he didn't under direct order from the promoter? If the sound guy kills the system-he won't get paid or rehired and the reputation. What if the band won't play if they can't have their "toy". Does the provider still turns the system on-even though he may go to jail? What if the bands sound guy goes to jail for operating the system. And so forth. It would probably be rare that the actual guy ording the show must go on-that gets the blame for the problem. [/QUOTE]

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