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<blockquote data-quote="John Roberts" data-source="post: 74817" data-attributes="member: 126">Re: Not that anyone needed proof...I have mentioned this before, control laws are part of the ergonomic design that can change the perception of otherwise similar measuring audio paths. In EQs there is another variable (Q), but that is another story.&nbsp; Conservative design is to make the EQ slow around &quot;0dB&quot; , so it is actually flat when you tell it to be flat, a fast off zero EQ can be interpreted as having more boost/cut than a slower off &quot;0&quot; design but look bad in benchmark flat measurements, if not zero&#039;d while looking at the result. Surely not how the operator uses it. I like my EQ to reflect what the knob tells me as accurately as practical.&nbsp; :-(Another consideration is to do no harm, i.e. do not give the operator so much boost/cut that they can make their path sound bad. I once encouraged the project engineer on a premium mic preamp with simple shelving EQ, to limit that to only +/-6 dB, the better to not sound bad, no matter how hard the customer tried (it worked IMO). Console ergonomics is one of the subtle reasons some consoles just work and sound better than others.. i wish I had a PHd in this high art, but I have only been studying it for decades. I believe I have an above average grasp tho... JR</blockquote>

[QUOTE="John Roberts, post: 74817, member: 126"] Re: Not that anyone needed proof... I have mentioned this before, control laws are part of the ergonomic design that can change the perception of otherwise similar measuring audio paths. In EQs there is another variable (Q), but that is another story. Conservative design is to make the EQ slow around "0dB" , so it is actually flat when you tell it to be flat, a fast off zero EQ can be interpreted as having more boost/cut than a slower off "0" design but look bad in benchmark flat measurements, if not zero'd while looking at the result. Surely not how the operator uses it. I like my EQ to reflect what the knob tells me as accurately as practical. :-( Another consideration is to do no harm, i.e. do not give the operator so much boost/cut that they can make their path sound bad. I once encouraged the project engineer on a premium mic preamp with simple shelving EQ, to limit that to only +/-6 dB, the better to not sound bad, no matter how hard the customer tried (it worked IMO). Console ergonomics is one of the subtle reasons some consoles just work and sound better than others.. i wish I had a PHd in this high art, but I have only been studying it for decades. I believe I have an above average grasp tho... JR [/QUOTE]

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