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<blockquote data-quote="John Roberts" data-source="post: 96874" data-attributes="member: 126"><p>Re: Property Tax</p><p></p><p>Well that would be more interesting if I played computer games (besides solitaire). But I did read it all. </p><p></p><p>I think there is a great deal of promise for using computers as surrogate teachers. They have infinite patience, and access to all the correct answers. Several years ago I would have argues that there needs to be a human touch involved in teaching but these days kids are born suckling a computer interface. Another benefit of CAT computer assisted teaching is that smart students could advance at their own speed, and not be bored to death waiting for the rest of the class to catch up. This would free up human teachers to deal with special cases. </p><p></p><p>I'll bet this (CAT) is already going on in homeschooling. Another no-brainer application is for absentees to make up missed classwork, perhaps even while at home sick, if they are actually at home and sick, or after school to catch up after they return. Of course we are a far way from that. </p><p></p><p>Getting back to reality, a more useful comparison would be between different schools in the same areas for better and worse performance, but even this comparison is corrupted by external factors. Look at voucher schools or private schools in the same city as public schools. The elephant in the room there is that parents who send their kids to private school are clearly more involved in their education. Voucher schools are similar just using OPM. </p><p></p><p>Michelle Rhee, an education reformer in Wash DC looked like she was making progress with objective based management before she got chewed up by the local politics, but some of that short term test improvement under her has been discredited with evidence of cheating, I'm shocked. :-( Even I don't expect instant success. It took a long time for education to get this way, it will take time to get it back on course. </p><p></p><p>Another test case to watch is the New Orleans school system that got decimated by Hurricane Katrina. That gave them an opportunity to start over from a clean slate without a lot of legacy baggage. It shouldn't be difficult to show improvement over the old N.O. school system before Katrina. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>There are no simple answers, but we won't fix this if we don't admit it is flawed, and all pull together. [group hug] I wish this was the only problem we have to deal with. </p><p></p><p>Happy 4th...</p><p></p><p>JR</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="John Roberts, post: 96874, member: 126"] Re: Property Tax Well that would be more interesting if I played computer games (besides solitaire). But I did read it all. I think there is a great deal of promise for using computers as surrogate teachers. They have infinite patience, and access to all the correct answers. Several years ago I would have argues that there needs to be a human touch involved in teaching but these days kids are born suckling a computer interface. Another benefit of CAT computer assisted teaching is that smart students could advance at their own speed, and not be bored to death waiting for the rest of the class to catch up. This would free up human teachers to deal with special cases. I'll bet this (CAT) is already going on in homeschooling. Another no-brainer application is for absentees to make up missed classwork, perhaps even while at home sick, if they are actually at home and sick, or after school to catch up after they return. Of course we are a far way from that. Getting back to reality, a more useful comparison would be between different schools in the same areas for better and worse performance, but even this comparison is corrupted by external factors. Look at voucher schools or private schools in the same city as public schools. The elephant in the room there is that parents who send their kids to private school are clearly more involved in their education. Voucher schools are similar just using OPM. Michelle Rhee, an education reformer in Wash DC looked like she was making progress with objective based management before she got chewed up by the local politics, but some of that short term test improvement under her has been discredited with evidence of cheating, I'm shocked. :-( Even I don't expect instant success. It took a long time for education to get this way, it will take time to get it back on course. Another test case to watch is the New Orleans school system that got decimated by Hurricane Katrina. That gave them an opportunity to start over from a clean slate without a lot of legacy baggage. It shouldn't be difficult to show improvement over the old N.O. school system before Katrina. :-) There are no simple answers, but we won't fix this if we don't admit it is flawed, and all pull together. [group hug] I wish this was the only problem we have to deal with. Happy 4th... JR [/QUOTE]
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