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<blockquote data-quote="Dave Stevens" data-source="post: 35183" data-attributes="member: 142"><p>Re: Question on PM5D monitor/cue routing</p><p></p><p>That's one of the things the desk doesn't have that I like, dual cue system or at least dual outputs for a single system. For those that need to use both ears and steam powered monitors, err I mean wedges, here is what I used to do in that situation with the PM5D.</p><p></p><p>Feed a stereo switch with the cue outputs. Route one set of switch outputs to the ear rig and one to the wedge controller/amp/ whatever you use to drive it. Watch when you switch back and forth though, I didn't do it at rock level and brought the cue master down then switched. If you wanted to get swanky you could run the line level feed to the wedge through a foot pedal or some sort of big pot so you could switch at rock level after you matched levels with the foot pedal or volume pot. Sound Image provided the switch I used and it was a commercial product but I forgot who made it. IIRC the PSM 900 has a loop through. We are in the process of changing to PSM1000 and our have loop throughs, though we don't use them. Instead of a switch box you could loop through to the amp and perhaps use a summing box if you don't need a stereo wedge. As an alternative to that method you could also use something like a Mackie Big Knob monitor switching system. <a href="http://www.mackie.com/products/bigknob/" target="_blank">http://www.mackie.com/products/bigknob/</a></p><p></p><p>Another trick I used to do when I had to do wedge/ears gigs is use the headphone out to drive my ear system. When you want to hear your ears without the wedge, turn the local outputs down and use the headphone level to adjust the send to your pack.</p><p></p><p>When I talk to folks that design consoles (used to do it a lot more than I do now), one of my biggest issues with even mid range modern console design is lack of dual cue facilities, or at least dual control of a single cue bus. Folks that design desks for a living, most of them get the idea. The reasons I get are mainly cost justification but for something like a PM5D I think it's an oversight. They did it on the PM1D which is how I fed my studio mons and my ear pack at the last gig I used the PM1D.</p><p></p><p>Try some different things, see what works for you.</p><p></p><p>Dave</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dave Stevens, post: 35183, member: 142"] Re: Question on PM5D monitor/cue routing That's one of the things the desk doesn't have that I like, dual cue system or at least dual outputs for a single system. For those that need to use both ears and steam powered monitors, err I mean wedges, here is what I used to do in that situation with the PM5D. Feed a stereo switch with the cue outputs. Route one set of switch outputs to the ear rig and one to the wedge controller/amp/ whatever you use to drive it. Watch when you switch back and forth though, I didn't do it at rock level and brought the cue master down then switched. If you wanted to get swanky you could run the line level feed to the wedge through a foot pedal or some sort of big pot so you could switch at rock level after you matched levels with the foot pedal or volume pot. Sound Image provided the switch I used and it was a commercial product but I forgot who made it. IIRC the PSM 900 has a loop through. We are in the process of changing to PSM1000 and our have loop throughs, though we don't use them. Instead of a switch box you could loop through to the amp and perhaps use a summing box if you don't need a stereo wedge. As an alternative to that method you could also use something like a Mackie Big Knob monitor switching system. [url]http://www.mackie.com/products/bigknob/[/url] Another trick I used to do when I had to do wedge/ears gigs is use the headphone out to drive my ear system. When you want to hear your ears without the wedge, turn the local outputs down and use the headphone level to adjust the send to your pack. When I talk to folks that design consoles (used to do it a lot more than I do now), one of my biggest issues with even mid range modern console design is lack of dual cue facilities, or at least dual control of a single cue bus. Folks that design desks for a living, most of them get the idea. The reasons I get are mainly cost justification but for something like a PM5D I think it's an oversight. They did it on the PM1D which is how I fed my studio mons and my ear pack at the last gig I used the PM1D. Try some different things, see what works for you. Dave [/QUOTE]
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