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<blockquote data-quote="Kip Conner" data-source="post: 55324" data-attributes="member: 445">Re: Reinforcement vs. amplificationI&#039;ll be there for a show. This topic was actually the cause of me being dismissed from a club/bar gig about 10 years. The &quot;talent&quot; buyer booked a band in one night and the place was almost empty. When the band arrived I gave them the typical speech that I have plenty of PA and everything will have a mic on it so just play to the stage and I&#039;ll take care of the rest. Soundcheck went on and I again asked them to find their tone if they needed volume to make that happen and let me reinforce them with the PA. On a side note, I was pretty much over working at this place... it was just something to do for a free meal and some cash all within 15 minutes from the house. The band started on time and out of the gate I started un-assigning faders from the main buss starting with electric guitars and then snare. After about the third song I walked up the stage and asked them to back off a little. After the fifth song the owner/ &quot;talentless buyer&quot; started bitching at me because of the volume. I told him that I asked them turn down several times and at this point I was just using the PA to fill in the gaps to what they were giving me from the stage. Since they weren&#039;t responding to any of my polite tactics- he told me that I needed to get impolite to get results. At that point I reached over and grabbed the master and pulled it all the down. He turned to me and said &quot;That sounds like shit&quot;... and I looked at him and said &quot;Well that&#039;s what you booked&quot;When I went in the next day to get my gear out of there the bar manager was apologizing on behalf of the owner since they didn&#039;t have enough in-house gear to do actual shows. I still feel vindicated knowing that the following night they were scrambling to figure out how to pull it off with just a few mics, no eq&#039;s or fx. Bands stopped accepting his offers to play there and the next karaoke bar was born.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kip Conner, post: 55324, member: 445"] Re: Reinforcement vs. amplification I'll be there for a show. This topic was actually the cause of me being dismissed from a club/bar gig about 10 years. The "talent" buyer booked a band in one night and the place was almost empty. When the band arrived I gave them the typical speech that I have plenty of PA and everything will have a mic on it so just play to the stage and I'll take care of the rest. Soundcheck went on and I again asked them to find their tone if they needed volume to make that happen and let me reinforce them with the PA. On a side note, I was pretty much over working at this place... it was just something to do for a free meal and some cash all within 15 minutes from the house. The band started on time and out of the gate I started un-assigning faders from the main buss starting with electric guitars and then snare. After about the third song I walked up the stage and asked them to back off a little. After the fifth song the owner/ "talentless buyer" started bitching at me because of the volume. I told him that I asked them turn down several times and at this point I was just using the PA to fill in the gaps to what they were giving me from the stage. Since they weren't responding to any of my polite tactics- he told me that I needed to get impolite to get results. At that point I reached over and grabbed the master and pulled it all the down. He turned to me and said "That sounds like shit"... and I looked at him and said "Well that's what you booked" When I went in the next day to get my gear out of there the bar manager was apologizing on behalf of the owner since they didn't have enough in-house gear to do actual shows. I still feel vindicated knowing that the following night they were scrambling to figure out how to pull it off with just a few mics, no eq's or fx. Bands stopped accepting his offers to play there and the next karaoke bar was born. [/QUOTE]

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