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<blockquote data-quote="Eric Cagle" data-source="post: 68526" data-attributes="member: 277"><p>Re: Secondary kick mic ....</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wow. I really really like the D6. I wonder if you got a bad unit. Was it new or used and have you ever used another one besides that one? I have always been able to get a good sound quickly with a D6 and honestly never needed the Shure 91 that always seems to come with most of the metal bands I have mixed over the last few years. With a good board there has usually been enough EQ to make the "click" into an ice pick if you wanted to without an additional mic.</p><p></p><p>As far as using it I usually pull out 12+db (most of the time a full counterclockwise 15db+ cut) of the low mid centered somewhere around 240hz and sometimes as high as 400hz depending on the sound and tuning of the drum, EQ, and PA. If you center to low you will pull out some of the meat and if you center too high you won't get all of the mud and flop out. Maybe a little boost on the low shelf but usually not. If a little more click is needed a boost centered between 6-8k and/or some high shelf as needed usually does the trick. Try adding the high shelf first for the type of music you are doing. Sometimes I will pull out most of the high mid EQ with the center turned as far left as it will go (usually down around 500hz) as well as the low mid cut and some high shelf boost if the drum sounds particularly bad. What you are listening for with the cuts as you move the center frequencys around is getting rid of that mud in the 200hz range and getting rid of that paper sound in the 500hz+ range that clouds up the midrange of your mix. The EQ cuts are pretty extreme but that might be why I have never noticed a "woofy" or "wooly" sound.</p><p></p><p>Coming from the recording studio I am a "Put the right mic in the right place and use no or very very little EQ" kind of guy. The exception to this is the drum kit. With live sound there is so much garbage coming from the drum mics that I would venture to say over half of the clarity of your mix will come from what is taken out of those inputs. I always pull out ALL of the low mid EQ centered 400-450hz on the toms and usually some 400hz on the snare. There is nothing coming through those mics in that range that is your friend in IMHO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Eric Cagle, post: 68526, member: 277"] Re: Secondary kick mic .... Wow. I really really like the D6. I wonder if you got a bad unit. Was it new or used and have you ever used another one besides that one? I have always been able to get a good sound quickly with a D6 and honestly never needed the Shure 91 that always seems to come with most of the metal bands I have mixed over the last few years. With a good board there has usually been enough EQ to make the "click" into an ice pick if you wanted to without an additional mic. As far as using it I usually pull out 12+db (most of the time a full counterclockwise 15db+ cut) of the low mid centered somewhere around 240hz and sometimes as high as 400hz depending on the sound and tuning of the drum, EQ, and PA. If you center to low you will pull out some of the meat and if you center too high you won't get all of the mud and flop out. Maybe a little boost on the low shelf but usually not. If a little more click is needed a boost centered between 6-8k and/or some high shelf as needed usually does the trick. Try adding the high shelf first for the type of music you are doing. Sometimes I will pull out most of the high mid EQ with the center turned as far left as it will go (usually down around 500hz) as well as the low mid cut and some high shelf boost if the drum sounds particularly bad. What you are listening for with the cuts as you move the center frequencys around is getting rid of that mud in the 200hz range and getting rid of that paper sound in the 500hz+ range that clouds up the midrange of your mix. The EQ cuts are pretty extreme but that might be why I have never noticed a "woofy" or "wooly" sound. Coming from the recording studio I am a "Put the right mic in the right place and use no or very very little EQ" kind of guy. The exception to this is the drum kit. With live sound there is so much garbage coming from the drum mics that I would venture to say over half of the clarity of your mix will come from what is taken out of those inputs. I always pull out ALL of the low mid EQ centered 400-450hz on the toms and usually some 400hz on the snare. There is nothing coming through those mics in that range that is your friend in IMHO. [/QUOTE]
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