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<blockquote data-quote="Lee Brenkman" data-source="post: 4131" data-attributes="member: 154">Here&#039;s one for all of my learned colleagues out there.I&#039;m again involved in the specifying of sound for a new venue in an OLD building.This time I&#039;m trying to get the appropriate, yet flexible, infrastructure into the construction so that they can have what they need INSIDE the walls and under the floor so that their system can grow without looking like the all to frequent Rube Goldberg looking set of add ons.So I&#039;m advising them to run some conduit for a snake and another for return and com etc. lines under the floor before they pour concrete.I know that some of us feel the days of the copper mic snake are numbered but initially that&#039;s what they&#039;re going to have and the electrical contractor is clear on the concept of pull ropes so that the original snake can be removed and a larger replacement or touring group snake can be installed later.SO, the question is WHAT SIZE should I specify.&nbsp;&nbsp; I&#039;m thinking it needs to be big enough to pull 1) an AMP multipin connector&nbsp; 2) the largest MASS connector or 3) 48 nicely bagged XLRs if they start off with an install with an existing snake with a hardwire fanout.And I think it would be good to have the second &quot;return&quot; conduit the same size &quot;just in case&quot;.Your thoughts and advice?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lee Brenkman, post: 4131, member: 154"] Here's one for all of my learned colleagues out there. I'm again involved in the specifying of sound for a new venue in an OLD building. This time I'm trying to get the appropriate, yet flexible, infrastructure into the construction so that they can have what they need INSIDE the walls and under the floor so that their system can grow without looking like the all to frequent Rube Goldberg looking set of add ons. So I'm advising them to run some conduit for a snake and another for return and com etc. lines under the floor before they pour concrete. I know that some of us feel the days of the copper mic snake are numbered but initially that's what they're going to have and the electrical contractor is clear on the concept of pull ropes so that the original snake can be removed and a larger replacement or touring group snake can be installed later. SO, the question is WHAT SIZE should I specify. I'm thinking it needs to be big enough to pull 1) an AMP multipin connector 2) the largest MASS connector or 3) 48 nicely bagged XLRs if they start off with an install with an existing snake with a hardwire fanout. And I think it would be good to have the second "return" conduit the same size "just in case". Your thoughts and advice? [/QUOTE]

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