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<blockquote data-quote="Ivan Beaver" data-source="post: 56956" data-attributes="member: 30"><p>Re: So this almost never happens...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And to add a little bit more-you need to know the answer (or kinda close) to the question-BEFORE you measure. If you don't then how can you be sure that the measurement is correct?</p><p></p><p>We see all kinds of measurements that are invalid-but often people think that because something shows up on a computer screen it is "the truth".</p><p></p><p>How a person reads that data (and the "question" that was asked) determines what (and how valid) the shown data is.</p><p></p><p>I know of many cases in which my ears have been fooled. </p><p></p><p>How many times have you made an eq "adjustment"-only to realize that the eq was not engaged-or that you adjusted the channel next to the one you wanted to?</p><p></p><p>If you haven't-a person is either lying or hasn't done it long enough.</p><p></p><p>Or listen really hard to a musical passage-then mute the channel. Now unmute the channel and listen again. Do you hear a difference? Or change the level 0.5dB while the channel is muted and see how different the sound is.</p><p></p><p>It is quite amusing how many "things" that the audio fools hear when they think that various "mods" to the system are making a real difference.</p><p></p><p>That is where measurements (at least accurate ones) come in handy. At least they bring a reference to the situation.</p><p></p><p>OK rant off.</p><p></p><p>Yes the ears are VERY important. But proper measurements can show up all kinds of things that the ears can't here.</p><p></p><p>I see statements all the time that people can hear things that can't be measured. But that is only because they are either using the wrong tool or not measuring the right thing.</p><p></p><p>Sorry to rant.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ivan Beaver, post: 56956, member: 30"] Re: So this almost never happens... And to add a little bit more-you need to know the answer (or kinda close) to the question-BEFORE you measure. If you don't then how can you be sure that the measurement is correct? We see all kinds of measurements that are invalid-but often people think that because something shows up on a computer screen it is "the truth". How a person reads that data (and the "question" that was asked) determines what (and how valid) the shown data is. I know of many cases in which my ears have been fooled. How many times have you made an eq "adjustment"-only to realize that the eq was not engaged-or that you adjusted the channel next to the one you wanted to? If you haven't-a person is either lying or hasn't done it long enough. Or listen really hard to a musical passage-then mute the channel. Now unmute the channel and listen again. Do you hear a difference? Or change the level 0.5dB while the channel is muted and see how different the sound is. It is quite amusing how many "things" that the audio fools hear when they think that various "mods" to the system are making a real difference. That is where measurements (at least accurate ones) come in handy. At least they bring a reference to the situation. OK rant off. Yes the ears are VERY important. But proper measurements can show up all kinds of things that the ears can't here. I see statements all the time that people can hear things that can't be measured. But that is only because they are either using the wrong tool or not measuring the right thing. Sorry to rant. [/QUOTE]
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