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<blockquote data-quote="Randy Frierson" data-source="post: 17145" data-attributes="member: 251">Re: State of the Industry 1/2011we are holding our own (but just barely)..So i feel every ones pain..one thing i have noticed is im losing allot of work to smaller guys with VRX type rigs and M7&#039;s..they get the job done but can work a heck of a lot cheaper than we can..Also i have seen some guys that are working but not being paid fair to cover their real labor cost and they say its all the venue will pay...sad part is they have decent gear and there is not much i can do to combat that as i understand everyone has bills to pay..The part that i always wonder is do they have the insurances that i have to have to operate as a legal responsible company. For me to do 2 consoles of any size or cost my engineer pay is a minumum of 700 out the door, then i have trucking and then gear cost, allot of gigs are wanting to only pay $1000...so can&#039;t make money doing that...our service and repair business is doing ok and our amp company is releasing 2 new models next week so i guess we will see....</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Randy Frierson, post: 17145, member: 251"] Re: State of the Industry 1/2011 we are holding our own (but just barely)..So i feel every ones pain..one thing i have noticed is im losing allot of work to smaller guys with VRX type rigs and M7's..they get the job done but can work a heck of a lot cheaper than we can..Also i have seen some guys that are working but not being paid fair to cover their real labor cost and they say its all the venue will pay...sad part is they have decent gear and there is not much i can do to combat that as i understand everyone has bills to pay..The part that i always wonder is do they have the insurances that i have to have to operate as a legal responsible company. For me to do 2 consoles of any size or cost my engineer pay is a minumum of 700 out the door, then i have trucking and then gear cost, allot of gigs are wanting to only pay $1000...so can't make money doing that...our service and repair business is doing ok and our amp company is releasing 2 new models next week so i guess we will see.... [/QUOTE]

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