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<blockquote data-quote="Jeff Babcock" data-source="post: 24409" data-attributes="member: 46"><p>Re: Steering advice for those serious about DIY speakers.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hi Phil,</p><p>Agreed, the coaxial project is not a "starter" project by any means. While most of the discussion thus far has been surrounding drivers, that is OK, this project is still a LONG way away from completion. Certainly you don't seem optimistic about a good outcome. I feel otherwise, but even if things bomb, it will still be a great learning experience. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, agreed, however I do believe that most of the required resources and knowledge exist within the members of this community and there is capability of a good quality outcome, even if that outcome is only a good learning experience.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Indeed this is true. This has not been discussed in much detail yet, but if this task is beyond the capabilities of those involved then we have resources who we may consider employing for such purposes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This advice is certainly welcome. There are plenty of ideas in the works at various stages, and a 3 way cab has already been considered and will likely receive some attention at some point in the future. The current coax project is primarily a means of getting the ball rolling with something that is a little bit less typical than most existing DIY projects. There are lots of 3 way designs, but few good compact DIY wedges that I have personally come across.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In many cases this is true. There are some exceptions however, and where those exceptions exist, I don't see a problem with using more expensive drivers. There are lots of DIY resources available if you want to build something cheap. The results of such projects can often be worthwhile, albeit limited in their use for professional or semi-professional applications. </p><p></p><p>Few resources exist for those ABOVE the bottom feeder level. I really don't care in the least if this becomes a highly popular forum or that the designs appeal to a mass market. That really is not the goal here, in fact is somewhat contrary to the approach I would envision, though this isn't just about the mod's wishes, the community will ultimately drive this in the direction that best suits their wishes. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Certainly more rational, but IMHO, it would be a bit of a boring start. If someone wants a box like that, they are welcome to PM me for some links to existing designs from other places on the web that are quite reasonable.</p><p></p><p>Please realize that expectations are not terribly out of line here with the coax project. Are we expecting to out-do boxes like Microwedge, M2, M4, XW12/15 etc? Not at all. But I do think it's very possible to put out something that is good enough to put on a non-rider'd stage and give the muso's something that's better than what they are accustomed to. I happily acknowledge, I don't have all of the answers. But that's where the power of the community comes in. Together, our communal knowledge is quite significant.</p><p></p><p>Thanks for your comments Phil, you are certainly a highly respected member of the community and a huge intellectual asset. I hope my response helps to clarify things somewhat, if not, feel free to continue the discussion. </p><p></p><p>When we get to later stages in this project, we'd be happy to send a coax prototype your way if you wished to provide some recommendations for improvement.</p><p></p><p>Kind regards</p><p>Jeff</p><p></p><p><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Salsola_tragus_tumbleweed.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeff Babcock, post: 24409, member: 46"] Re: Steering advice for those serious about DIY speakers. Hi Phil, Agreed, the coaxial project is not a "starter" project by any means. While most of the discussion thus far has been surrounding drivers, that is OK, this project is still a LONG way away from completion. Certainly you don't seem optimistic about a good outcome. I feel otherwise, but even if things bomb, it will still be a great learning experience. Again, agreed, however I do believe that most of the required resources and knowledge exist within the members of this community and there is capability of a good quality outcome, even if that outcome is only a good learning experience. Indeed this is true. This has not been discussed in much detail yet, but if this task is beyond the capabilities of those involved then we have resources who we may consider employing for such purposes. This advice is certainly welcome. There are plenty of ideas in the works at various stages, and a 3 way cab has already been considered and will likely receive some attention at some point in the future. The current coax project is primarily a means of getting the ball rolling with something that is a little bit less typical than most existing DIY projects. There are lots of 3 way designs, but few good compact DIY wedges that I have personally come across. In many cases this is true. There are some exceptions however, and where those exceptions exist, I don't see a problem with using more expensive drivers. There are lots of DIY resources available if you want to build something cheap. The results of such projects can often be worthwhile, albeit limited in their use for professional or semi-professional applications. Few resources exist for those ABOVE the bottom feeder level. I really don't care in the least if this becomes a highly popular forum or that the designs appeal to a mass market. That really is not the goal here, in fact is somewhat contrary to the approach I would envision, though this isn't just about the mod's wishes, the community will ultimately drive this in the direction that best suits their wishes. Certainly more rational, but IMHO, it would be a bit of a boring start. If someone wants a box like that, they are welcome to PM me for some links to existing designs from other places on the web that are quite reasonable. Please realize that expectations are not terribly out of line here with the coax project. Are we expecting to out-do boxes like Microwedge, M2, M4, XW12/15 etc? Not at all. But I do think it's very possible to put out something that is good enough to put on a non-rider'd stage and give the muso's something that's better than what they are accustomed to. I happily acknowledge, I don't have all of the answers. But that's where the power of the community comes in. Together, our communal knowledge is quite significant. Thanks for your comments Phil, you are certainly a highly respected member of the community and a huge intellectual asset. I hope my response helps to clarify things somewhat, if not, feel free to continue the discussion. When we get to later stages in this project, we'd be happy to send a coax prototype your way if you wished to provide some recommendations for improvement. Kind regards Jeff [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Salsola_tragus_tumbleweed.jpg [/img] [/QUOTE]
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