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<blockquote data-quote="Ivan Beaver" data-source="post: 59180" data-attributes="member: 30"><p>Re: Sub box construction question?</p><p></p><p>I stronglly disagree with the statement "The glue is stronger than the wood-therfore you don't need mechanical fasteners".</p><p></p><p>OK- yes the glue is stronger than the wood-BUT ONLY FOR ONE LAYER OF THE WOOD!!!!</p><p></p><p>Once that layer peals off-you are hosed. Like relying on something that "sticks to paint". You are only as strong as how well the paint sticks to the wall. You may not be able to seperate the item from the paint-but the paint can easily come off the wall. And if the paint is really attached to the drywall-then you are only as good as the paper on the drywall attached to the "rock" material. A nail or screw all the way through to the stud will hold up MUCH MUCH more!</p><p></p><p>I prefer glue AND lots of mechanical fasteners. Glue coated staples or large finish nails. Little brads are better than nothing-but not as good as long thick/strong fastener. That way when the fastener goes in-the glue around it melts and then reglues the fastener into place-a double "whammy".</p><p></p><p></p><p>The mechanical fasteners are for A LOT more than just holding the piece together while the glue dries.</p><p></p><p>When you start dropping cabinets and banging them around-the ones with glue and mechanical fasteners are the ones that are going to hold together longer.</p><p></p><p>Screws are nice-but are very time consuming and expensive. I usually use them only for special places in the cabinet.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ivan Beaver, post: 59180, member: 30"] Re: Sub box construction question? I stronglly disagree with the statement "The glue is stronger than the wood-therfore you don't need mechanical fasteners". OK- yes the glue is stronger than the wood-BUT ONLY FOR ONE LAYER OF THE WOOD!!!! Once that layer peals off-you are hosed. Like relying on something that "sticks to paint". You are only as strong as how well the paint sticks to the wall. You may not be able to seperate the item from the paint-but the paint can easily come off the wall. And if the paint is really attached to the drywall-then you are only as good as the paper on the drywall attached to the "rock" material. A nail or screw all the way through to the stud will hold up MUCH MUCH more! I prefer glue AND lots of mechanical fasteners. Glue coated staples or large finish nails. Little brads are better than nothing-but not as good as long thick/strong fastener. That way when the fastener goes in-the glue around it melts and then reglues the fastener into place-a double "whammy". The mechanical fasteners are for A LOT more than just holding the piece together while the glue dries. When you start dropping cabinets and banging them around-the ones with glue and mechanical fasteners are the ones that are going to hold together longer. Screws are nice-but are very time consuming and expensive. I usually use them only for special places in the cabinet. [/QUOTE]
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