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<blockquote data-quote="Craig Hauber" data-source="post: 91500" data-attributes="member: 272">Re: Subs, what to do if you lack excursion?Good, I&#039;m going to go with it then.&nbsp; Currently the drivers are loaded in a huge box close to 9cu ft and they just flop wildly if you get careless with EQ or overall levels.&nbsp; I&#039;m fine with it but very hesitant to let anybody else use it.&nbsp; (This is all my leftover klag up here in ND&amp;MT, all the modern rigs are working down in SoCal still)&nbsp; I&#039;m actually having fun making leftover and discarded PA gear sing again, folks up here are appreciative of quality for a change.&nbsp; Unfortunately I&#039;m stricken with such a bad arthritic joint condition I can barely walk sometimes so grovelling around with big old PA boxes is now out of the question.&nbsp; My tops are EV 12&quot; &amp; DH3 rectangular cabs that would work well for small gigs with a similar sized smaller sub.&nbsp;That&#039;s what I thought too but was being polite <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :-)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" />I do remember crossing them quite high by modern standards, but still not that high!I still have many warm-fuzzy memories of mixing on that rig (had 16 stacks all crown MA3600, 2400, 1200 and PSA-2(!) powered.&nbsp; Many times I would deploy 16 subs with only 8 tops but do some judicious boosting at 40Hz to give more of a deep-bass feel with the 2-to-1 sub ratio allowing you to do it without beating the 18&#039;s to death. (and at that time I was just hoping the &quot;new&quot; EDM craze was just a passing fad!&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :-)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" />I still think that you can do really good sound with a rig that goes to 50.&nbsp; Everybody seems obsessed with 30Hz and below yet don&#039;t seem to care about the other 7 octaves.&nbsp; Amaze people with a quality band, a stellar mid/high mix and a fat-yet-proportional 55 to 120 and nobody will miss that 30Hz. (I&#039;ve even witnessed this after running a club for 2 years)Thank you Art, your posts are always informative and interesting.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Craig Hauber, post: 91500, member: 272"] Re: Subs, what to do if you lack excursion? Good, I'm going to go with it then. Currently the drivers are loaded in a huge box close to 9cu ft and they just flop wildly if you get careless with EQ or overall levels. I'm fine with it but very hesitant to let anybody else use it. (This is all my leftover klag up here in ND&MT, all the modern rigs are working down in SoCal still) I'm actually having fun making leftover and discarded PA gear sing again, folks up here are appreciative of quality for a change. Unfortunately I'm stricken with such a bad arthritic joint condition I can barely walk sometimes so grovelling around with big old PA boxes is now out of the question. My tops are EV 12" & DH3 rectangular cabs that would work well for small gigs with a similar sized smaller sub. That's what I thought too but was being polite :-) I do remember crossing them quite high by modern standards, but still not that high! I still have many warm-fuzzy memories of mixing on that rig (had 16 stacks all crown MA3600, 2400, 1200 and PSA-2(!) powered. Many times I would deploy 16 subs with only 8 tops but do some judicious boosting at 40Hz to give more of a deep-bass feel with the 2-to-1 sub ratio allowing you to do it without beating the 18's to death. (and at that time I was just hoping the "new" EDM craze was just a passing fad! :-) I still think that you can do really good sound with a rig that goes to 50. Everybody seems obsessed with 30Hz and below yet don't seem to care about the other 7 octaves. Amaze people with a quality band, a stellar mid/high mix and a fat-yet-proportional 55 to 120 and nobody will miss that 30Hz. (I've even witnessed this after running a club for 2 years) Thank you Art, your posts are always informative and interesting. [/QUOTE]

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