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Test what you think you know: Part 2
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<blockquote data-quote="Jay Barracato" data-source="post: 121479" data-attributes="member: 24"><p>Re: Test what you think you know: Part 2</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH]153264[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH]153262[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH]153263[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH]153261[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>At this point I have no idea how you are using a windscreen type material to mount and support the mic. I will say if the mic is in contact with the bridge or the soundboard, a major transmission is going to come from the physical contact.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I understand how both PCC and PZM mics work. Since they are based on making the time of travel to the element the same for both direct sound and reflected sound. I do not see how that applies to the sound of the bass in this case because, as I previously said, the source of the sound is the soundboard. If the soundboard is the source of the sound, it can't also be a source of a reflection. The soundboard could act as a boundary to bleed from other sources, but not to the bass itself.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sorry, not buying it. You haven't convinced my the soundboard is a boundary, nor how the sounds produced by a bass are somehow different from the sounds in the pink noise. This is a dual path measurement. I am not looking for what the sounds are, but for differences between the two conditions.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No doubt but I am still not sure what technique you are talking about, because the monstrosity I posted is exactly what is seen at many festivals.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I already showed a picture of a bridge mounted EV nd487, which is extremely feedback resistant, produces thundering bass, and can be tilted to dial in the exact ratio of fingerboard to body that you want.</p><p></p><p>I also like to use small body condenser mics mounted in a couple of different ways but by far my go to is a pro35, atm350, or 9006 either with the boom or taken off the boom.</p><p>Here are some of my techniques:</p><p></p><p>The clip on mics can be attached to the f hole, or the bridge. When attaching to the bridge I often use these small modelers clamps. They are lightweight, can attach in a number of positions, and provides a solid place to attach the clip on mics. I especially like to take the mic element off the boom and just tape it to the clamp. Great sound, low profile, and solid attachment to the instrument.</p><p></p><p>I have also used the arm from a audix mic clamp rubber banded across the bridge to hold a small body condenser pointed just to the side of the sound post. In the photo it has a regular clamp on it, because that was what was there when I pulled it out of my possibles box, but it works well with the smaller clamps.</p><p></p><p>Sent from my DROID RAZR HD</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jay Barracato, post: 121479, member: 24"] Re: Test what you think you know: Part 2 [ATTACH=CONFIG]153264.vB5-legacyid=9806[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]153262.vB5-legacyid=9804[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]153263.vB5-legacyid=9805[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]153261.vB5-legacyid=9803[/ATTACH] At this point I have no idea how you are using a windscreen type material to mount and support the mic. I will say if the mic is in contact with the bridge or the soundboard, a major transmission is going to come from the physical contact. I understand how both PCC and PZM mics work. Since they are based on making the time of travel to the element the same for both direct sound and reflected sound. I do not see how that applies to the sound of the bass in this case because, as I previously said, the source of the sound is the soundboard. If the soundboard is the source of the sound, it can't also be a source of a reflection. The soundboard could act as a boundary to bleed from other sources, but not to the bass itself. Sorry, not buying it. You haven't convinced my the soundboard is a boundary, nor how the sounds produced by a bass are somehow different from the sounds in the pink noise. This is a dual path measurement. I am not looking for what the sounds are, but for differences between the two conditions. No doubt but I am still not sure what technique you are talking about, because the monstrosity I posted is exactly what is seen at many festivals. I already showed a picture of a bridge mounted EV nd487, which is extremely feedback resistant, produces thundering bass, and can be tilted to dial in the exact ratio of fingerboard to body that you want. I also like to use small body condenser mics mounted in a couple of different ways but by far my go to is a pro35, atm350, or 9006 either with the boom or taken off the boom. Here are some of my techniques: The clip on mics can be attached to the f hole, or the bridge. When attaching to the bridge I often use these small modelers clamps. They are lightweight, can attach in a number of positions, and provides a solid place to attach the clip on mics. I especially like to take the mic element off the boom and just tape it to the clamp. Great sound, low profile, and solid attachment to the instrument. I have also used the arm from a audix mic clamp rubber banded across the bridge to hold a small body condenser pointed just to the side of the sound post. In the photo it has a regular clamp on it, because that was what was there when I pulled it out of my possibles box, but it works well with the smaller clamps. Sent from my DROID RAZR HD [/QUOTE]
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