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<blockquote data-quote="Brad Weber" data-source="post: 117420" data-attributes="member: 114">Re: Theatre installI once was the Consultant on a good sized corporate AV project and during the AV Pre-Bid meeting a question came up about conduit.&nbsp; After I had responded about where conduit was being provided the GC spoke up to say that there had been a VE decision that the EE had approved to delete conduit and they had assumed that included all of the AV conduit so other than required to get though walls, etc. there was now no conduit being provided.&nbsp; Nice of someone to ask for our input or at least let us know what was going on.&nbsp; And changing all the affected AV cabling over to plenum cable probably cost more than they saved by deleting the conduit, so hardly a good example of Value Engineering.I find that some of the odd things you find may be the result of specific requests, budget cuts, &#039;futureproofing&#039;, etc.&nbsp; It could be that the Consultant messed up, but then again they may have done exactly what was asked of them.&nbsp; Numerous times I have overheard a Contractor opining how stupid or rdiciulous something I did is when there is actually a reason for it being that way.&nbsp; In fact I once had a Contractor &#039;fix&#039; my design during installation only to have to redo it all after they were told by the Client that they had specifically asked for it to be as shown in my design and weren&#039;t paying for it until it was installed that way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Brad Weber, post: 117420, member: 114"] Re: Theatre install I once was the Consultant on a good sized corporate AV project and during the AV Pre-Bid meeting a question came up about conduit. After I had responded about where conduit was being provided the GC spoke up to say that there had been a VE decision that the EE had approved to delete conduit and they had assumed that included all of the AV conduit so other than required to get though walls, etc. there was now no conduit being provided. Nice of someone to ask for our input or at least let us know what was going on. And changing all the affected AV cabling over to plenum cable probably cost more than they saved by deleting the conduit, so hardly a good example of Value Engineering. I find that some of the odd things you find may be the result of specific requests, budget cuts, 'futureproofing', etc. It could be that the Consultant messed up, but then again they may have done exactly what was asked of them. Numerous times I have overheard a Contractor opining how stupid or rdiciulous something I did is when there is actually a reason for it being that way. In fact I once had a Contractor 'fix' my design during installation only to have to redo it all after they were told by the Client that they had specifically asked for it to be as shown in my design and weren't paying for it until it was installed that way. [/QUOTE]

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