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<blockquote data-quote="drew gandy" data-source="post: 100009" data-attributes="member: 880">Re: Thought Problem: micing and mixing a panel discussion for recordingI did a shoot several weeks ago with 6 wireless mics in a private home so this is still kind of fresh in my mind.&nbsp; I was tempted to use a Shure for a submix but dumped it just before shooting.&nbsp; There were a couple reasons I skipped it but one them is that there is an opinion among location sound recording people that automixing of any sort is a no-no.&nbsp; I didn&#039;t want to risk the client finding fault with my methodology.&nbsp; And I agree that the Shure&#039;s aren&#039;t a good option for broadcast type material (even in the 13 or 15db setting).&nbsp; I use them for recordings that are to be transcribed since the shifting ambience isn&#039;t a problem there.&nbsp; But for something broadcast oriented, there is a chance it will sound kind of funky.&nbsp; Now, the problem with the pzms is the ambience of the room.&nbsp; The room you described sounds like it has no acoustic treatment and will probably have a pretty strong character in all the mics but especially those pzms. The shoot I did had quite a bit of &quot;room&quot; to it and I was using cardioid lavs.&nbsp; Bare, parallel sheetrock walls (and a shiny conference table) are just not good for a shoot that should sound mostly neutral.&nbsp; If the client decides to do some varying of the mix in post then they would likely have problems with the room tone changing as those pzms go up and down in level.&nbsp; Sometimes all the dramatic music saves the day but not always.&nbsp; I think closer micing is the best option for this situation and on camera, that usually means lavs.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="drew gandy, post: 100009, member: 880"] Re: Thought Problem: micing and mixing a panel discussion for recording I did a shoot several weeks ago with 6 wireless mics in a private home so this is still kind of fresh in my mind. I was tempted to use a Shure for a submix but dumped it just before shooting. There were a couple reasons I skipped it but one them is that there is an opinion among location sound recording people that automixing of any sort is a no-no. I didn't want to risk the client finding fault with my methodology. And I agree that the Shure's aren't a good option for broadcast type material (even in the 13 or 15db setting). I use them for recordings that are to be transcribed since the shifting ambience isn't a problem there. But for something broadcast oriented, there is a chance it will sound kind of funky. Now, the problem with the pzms is the ambience of the room. The room you described sounds like it has no acoustic treatment and will probably have a pretty strong character in all the mics but especially those pzms. The shoot I did had quite a bit of "room" to it and I was using cardioid lavs. Bare, parallel sheetrock walls (and a shiny conference table) are just not good for a shoot that should sound mostly neutral. If the client decides to do some varying of the mix in post then they would likely have problems with the room tone changing as those pzms go up and down in level. Sometimes all the dramatic music saves the day but not always. I think closer micing is the best option for this situation and on camera, that usually means lavs. [/QUOTE]

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