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<blockquote data-quote="Ivan Beaver" data-source="post: 76880" data-attributes="member: 30">Re: Too Old?Just to add another comment.&nbsp; ANybody that just &quot;throws out a brand name&quot; obviously has no clue.&nbsp; All brands have products that are better and worse than others in the line.NEWS FLASH-not all products sound/perform the same-even from the same manufacturer and even within the same product line.Just because it is a XYZ &quot;brand&quot; does not mean anything.&nbsp; And it could be the top of the line product they have.&nbsp; But that STILL does not mean it will do a particular job in a particular venue.&nbsp; What if the &quot;greatest product&quot; doesn&#039;t have enough coverage to cover the audience?&nbsp; What if it is to wide and is splattering sound off of the walls?&nbsp; And so forth.Unless they have a SPECIFIC suggestion (that is correct in the usage) then then are just trying to &quot;name drop&quot;.&nbsp; And if they are not happy with what was brought-then THEY should have advanced the show.&nbsp; But that would required knowing what you are talking about----------------------------------------HOWEVER-since the product provided was not what the operator wanted-that is a CLEAR opportunity to place ALL BLAME on the sound on the product-NOT the operator.I have been in that &quot;seat&quot; waaaayyyy to many times.&nbsp; Some guy that doesn&#039;t have a clue-blames the gear.&nbsp; Funny how EVERY gig they do-the same problems exist-with different gear???????&nbsp; What is common here????Years ago I hired out a console that the sound guy HAD to have.&nbsp; When he got it-he had no idea how to operate it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!&nbsp; Nobody had every given him one before-but he insisted on having it.&nbsp; And of course the sound was crap.&nbsp; Funny how every other band that played thought the same console and system sounded just fine-----------------It is much easier to place blame on others-rather than look at your own shortcomings.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ivan Beaver, post: 76880, member: 30"] Re: Too Old? Just to add another comment. ANybody that just "throws out a brand name" obviously has no clue. All brands have products that are better and worse than others in the line. NEWS FLASH-not all products sound/perform the same-even from the same manufacturer and even within the same product line. Just because it is a XYZ "brand" does not mean anything. And it could be the top of the line product they have. But that STILL does not mean it will do a particular job in a particular venue. What if the "greatest product" doesn't have enough coverage to cover the audience? What if it is to wide and is splattering sound off of the walls? And so forth. Unless they have a SPECIFIC suggestion (that is correct in the usage) then then are just trying to "name drop". And if they are not happy with what was brought-then THEY should have advanced the show. But that would required knowing what you are talking about---------------------------------------- HOWEVER-since the product provided was not what the operator wanted-that is a CLEAR opportunity to place ALL BLAME on the sound on the product-NOT the operator. I have been in that "seat" waaaayyyy to many times. Some guy that doesn't have a clue-blames the gear. Funny how EVERY gig they do-the same problems exist-with different gear??????? What is common here???? Years ago I hired out a console that the sound guy HAD to have. When he got it-he had no idea how to operate it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nobody had every given him one before-but he insisted on having it. And of course the sound was crap. Funny how every other band that played thought the same console and system sounded just fine----------------- It is much easier to place blame on others-rather than look at your own shortcomings. [/QUOTE]

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