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<blockquote data-quote="Phil Graham" data-source="post: 33244" data-attributes="member: 430"><p>Re: Sign up for measurement class updates</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>John,</p><p></p><p></p><p>Unfortunately my website caching munged the functionality of the mailchimp ajax form at some point in the past day, and your information was not submitted. I do apologize! Please see <a href="http://www.soundforums.net/live/threads/2004-Topics-suggestions-for-advanced-system-tech-and-tuning-class?p=14993#post14993" target="_blank">this post</a> for more details. Everything seems to fixed now, and has passed multiple testings. I'll keep monitoring it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We cannot put a price down with certainty until we know what the venue fees will be. We are asking a <em>lot</em> of the preferred venue, namely complete access to their multi-million dollar AV installation for at least two contiguous days in the middle of week, all in a facility that sees over 8000 people through the doors every seven days.</p><p></p><p>Even with their in-house people being given the class, and also around to keep an eye on the installation, we are making a <em>big</em> request. There may be expenses for liability, facilities use, electricity, or to pay their security people for extended hours. I'm not far enough along with them for those gory details yet.</p><p></p><p>Also, we are asking the venue to let as be completely candid about the performance of their (large) investment. We want to make the class as helpful for as many platforms, and sound gear allegiances, as possible, so candor is a necessity. If attendees, or manufacturers, want to supply additional DSPs or loudspeakers to measure/fiddle with, we will encourage a limited amount of that, <em>but expect us to speak the truth about what we think about any product: good, bad or ugly</em>.</p><p></p><p>That said, I don't see how we could do the class for less than $250 per person per day, and I'd look for an alternative venue if it was to be more than $350 per person per day. We would have breakfast and lunch on site. So plan on $900 plus travel, hotels, and dinner. Atlanta is a cheap flight from almost anywhere, and there is a subway stop from the airport within half a mile of the venue. There are many hotels within a mile of the venue that range from moderate to almost NYC expensive.</p><p></p><p><em>The reality is that any renumeration that Bennett and I receive will not cover the man hour cost of time spent on the curriculum</em>. We will have to teach the class multiple times to recoup that investment. Therefore we have a vested interest in the class going well and receiving as much positive word of mouth advertising as possible! </p><p></p><p> Also remember that if your measurement setup isn't already established, you have the upfront cost of purchasing SMAART/Systune/SpectraFoo/ARTA/etc., a measurement interface, a couple of measurement microphones, cabling, cases, other system tech bits, and either paid training or the school of hard knocks to become familiar with its operation. Most people end up at least a couple thousand US deep in the measuring rig before they would think about a class like this.</p><p></p><p>I hope this helps!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Phil Graham, post: 33244, member: 430"] Re: Sign up for measurement class updates John, Unfortunately my website caching munged the functionality of the mailchimp ajax form at some point in the past day, and your information was not submitted. I do apologize! Please see [URL="http://www.soundforums.net/live/threads/2004-Topics-suggestions-for-advanced-system-tech-and-tuning-class?p=14993#post14993"]this post[/URL] for more details. Everything seems to fixed now, and has passed multiple testings. I'll keep monitoring it. We cannot put a price down with certainty until we know what the venue fees will be. We are asking a [I]lot[/I] of the preferred venue, namely complete access to their multi-million dollar AV installation for at least two contiguous days in the middle of week, all in a facility that sees over 8000 people through the doors every seven days. Even with their in-house people being given the class, and also around to keep an eye on the installation, we are making a [I]big[/I] request. There may be expenses for liability, facilities use, electricity, or to pay their security people for extended hours. I'm not far enough along with them for those gory details yet. Also, we are asking the venue to let as be completely candid about the performance of their (large) investment. We want to make the class as helpful for as many platforms, and sound gear allegiances, as possible, so candor is a necessity. If attendees, or manufacturers, want to supply additional DSPs or loudspeakers to measure/fiddle with, we will encourage a limited amount of that, [I]but expect us to speak the truth about what we think about any product: good, bad or ugly[/I]. That said, I don't see how we could do the class for less than $250 per person per day, and I'd look for an alternative venue if it was to be more than $350 per person per day. We would have breakfast and lunch on site. So plan on $900 plus travel, hotels, and dinner. Atlanta is a cheap flight from almost anywhere, and there is a subway stop from the airport within half a mile of the venue. There are many hotels within a mile of the venue that range from moderate to almost NYC expensive. [I]The reality is that any renumeration that Bennett and I receive will not cover the man hour cost of time spent on the curriculum[/I]. We will have to teach the class multiple times to recoup that investment. Therefore we have a vested interest in the class going well and receiving as much positive word of mouth advertising as possible! Also remember that if your measurement setup isn't already established, you have the upfront cost of purchasing SMAART/Systune/SpectraFoo/ARTA/etc., a measurement interface, a couple of measurement microphones, cabling, cases, other system tech bits, and either paid training or the school of hard knocks to become familiar with its operation. Most people end up at least a couple thousand US deep in the measuring rig before they would think about a class like this. I hope this helps! [/QUOTE]
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