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<blockquote data-quote="Phil Graham" data-source="post: 33342" data-attributes="member: 430">Re: Cluster and downfill levelsDrew,I too have used the magic empty aux turn on gigs before, but this is not that circumstance. Rather this is a circumstance where both myself, and the venue engineer, iteratively listened, while walking the room, to the downfill level in 0.5dB increments near what we anticipated would be an appropriate volume. After mutually deciding that one additional 0.5dB step was too much, we split the difference between 0.5dB steps. It was only after the fact that we correlated this level to be 0.2dB below the center cluster downfill, as we consciously did not consult the center cluster processor settings in configuring the L/R arrays.In a quality install setting a half dB step is generally audible, if not easily viewable in the measurement software. The ear is particularly acute to overall levels of sound sources.&nbsp;Absolutely. It would be very hard to repeatedly hear 0.2dB even in a well designed installation. Half a dB, though, is readily noticeable with careful, iterative listening on a good installation system. Half a dB is also readily perceivable in a loudspeaker voicing. In combat audio the audibility jump certainly spreads to a dB or more.Hopefully that clarifies how we came to those levels.I too apologize for this rabbit trail on what was supposed to be a thread on things people wanted to see in the curriculum, which is something that Bennett and I still want to hear your feedback on as we continue our development of that curriculum.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Phil Graham, post: 33342, member: 430"] Re: Cluster and downfill levels Drew, I too have used the magic empty aux turn on gigs before, but this is not that circumstance. Rather this is a circumstance where both myself, and the venue engineer, iteratively listened, while walking the room, to the downfill level in 0.5dB increments near what we anticipated would be an appropriate volume. After mutually deciding that one additional 0.5dB step was too much, we split the difference between 0.5dB steps. [I]It was only after the fact that we correlated this level to be 0.2dB below the center cluster downfill, as we consciously did not consult the center cluster processor settings in configuring the L/R arrays.[/I] In a quality install setting a half dB step is generally audible, if not easily viewable in the measurement software. The ear is particularly acute to overall levels of sound sources. Absolutely. It would be [I]very hard[/I] to repeatedly hear 0.2dB even in a well designed installation. Half a dB, though, is readily noticeable with careful, iterative listening on a good installation system. Half a dB is also readily perceivable in a loudspeaker voicing. In combat audio the audibility jump certainly spreads to a dB or more. Hopefully that clarifies how we came to those levels. [I]I too apologize for this rabbit trail on what was supposed to be a thread on things people wanted to see in the curriculum, which is something that Bennett and I still want to hear your feedback on as we continue our development of that curriculum.[/I] [/QUOTE]

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