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<blockquote data-quote="Justice C. Bigler" data-source="post: 24980" data-attributes="member: 74">Re: Training young engineers&nbsp;That is actually the text book for the sound portion of our apprentice program here in the IA local (for which I serve as a committee member), which they get for free as part of being in the apprentice program. I have also thrown the Yamaha book at several of them. For whatever reason, they don&#039;t seem to have the reading comprehension skills to understand what it is that they are reading.I don&#039;t know how to say what I&#039;m thinking without coming off as elitist, but I think that their overall educational background, or lack there of is holding them back. Even some of the guys who have been working as stage hands for 20 or 30 years still seem to lack a real competence in something as simple as patching inputs on a stage, through dry lines, into a patch panel in the booth that patches to the console snake. I have one guy who routinely tells people he was been working in the industry since 1985 (and isn&#039;t more than maybe 5 or 6 years older than me), but still is unable to get a small set up of 10 or 12 mics plugged in in proper order.And yeah, some of them have problems wrapping cables also.It&#039;s frustrating because people are looking to me when something goes wrong or doesn&#039;t work and want to know why I didn&#039;t teach them how to do this stuff. And the young sound guys look at me and want to know when I&#039;m going to teach them everything I know--as if one person sat me down and taught me everything.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Justice C. Bigler, post: 24980, member: 74"] Re: Training young engineers That is actually the text book for the sound portion of our apprentice program here in the IA local (for which I serve as a committee member), which they get for free as part of being in the apprentice program. I have also thrown the Yamaha book at several of them. For whatever reason, they don't seem to have the reading comprehension skills to understand what it is that they are reading. I don't know how to say what I'm thinking without coming off as elitist, but I think that their overall educational background, or lack there of is holding them back. Even some of the guys who have been working as stage hands for 20 or 30 years still seem to lack a real competence in something as simple as patching inputs on a stage, through dry lines, into a patch panel in the booth that patches to the console snake. I have one guy who routinely tells people he was been working in the industry since 1985 (and isn't more than maybe 5 or 6 years older than me), but still is unable to get a small set up of 10 or 12 mics plugged in in proper order. And yeah, some of them have problems wrapping cables also. It's frustrating because people are looking to me when something goes wrong or doesn't work and want to know why I didn't teach them how to do this stuff. And the young sound guys look at me and want to know when I'm going to teach them everything I know--as if one person sat me down and taught me everything. [/QUOTE]

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