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<blockquote data-quote="Kim Watson" data-source="post: 25064" data-attributes="member: 41"><p>Re: Training young engineers</p><p></p><p>When I was starting out the guy teaching me set out levels...... he actually went through the structure of the sound team and gave me the aims to hit and the responsibilities for each of the levels.... </p><p></p><p>I was shown how to do it, I then did it under direction, I did it under supervision (not told how to do it), then I was given the responsibility. </p><p></p><p>loader</p><p>Stage tech (fault finding, Mic basics, positioning etc, stage wireing)</p><p>System Tech (wireing up monitors and FOH basic systems 2 way 3 way etc) </p><p>Stage patch (thinking about both boards, Stage patch with stage snakes v direct run cables etc) </p><p>Monitor engineer - house and whys about monitors and hook ups. </p><p>FOH engineer - learning FOH patch of inserts etc.... mixing</p><p></p><p>As far as getting me mixing I was Aloud to mix the first band on..... under supervision. usually the drum channels were the same as his but I had to bring up guitars and vocals...... and mix the band. Next given the 2 supports and had to learn to bring up drum channels..... I got my hands on the monitor board first and had 2 really good monitor guys teach me the phycology of monitor mixing. I found an engineer online to ask questions and give me advice almost a mentor. I had to achieve certain levels before I could move up. </p><p></p><p>It was given to me structured from the beginning. I always knew what was next to learn. </p><p></p><p>I knew I would be making tea and pushing boxes from the very beginning. and allot of the young kids coming through form Degree courses expect to be "engineers" as soon as they come out of uni. They think because they have a college degree they can walk in to the higher levels of employment like they do with other careers. They are however lacking in most of the major life lessons learned through working from the bottom. Even lacking in common sense. </p><p></p><p>Coming into the job and being given the Pathway to getting my hands on a board was enough to make me hungry to learn. Instead of walking into the job and being slapped down and told I was not an engineer and had allot to learn, I was given the ladder to climb and told "you want to do this? This is how to be the best at what you do" </p><p></p><p>The guys I was learning from had passion and even when we weren't working on the show would be talking shop. At first I didn't understand allot of it. but gradually understood more or would go home and look it up. I was given a link to PSW and told to search for things I didn't understand. Instead of handing it to me on a plate they gave me the tools to go look it all up. </p><p></p><p>I kinda fall into the percentage where this was never just another job. I had been in work from 14 and knew I had to do something I loved. When I found It I had to go after it with total determination. and MAKE my job. I realised early on if you don't keep up you dont get the call back. Half measure don't cut it. </p><p></p><p>Ok Ive rambled alot! hahah </p><p></p><p>Kim x</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kim Watson, post: 25064, member: 41"] Re: Training young engineers When I was starting out the guy teaching me set out levels...... he actually went through the structure of the sound team and gave me the aims to hit and the responsibilities for each of the levels.... I was shown how to do it, I then did it under direction, I did it under supervision (not told how to do it), then I was given the responsibility. loader Stage tech (fault finding, Mic basics, positioning etc, stage wireing) System Tech (wireing up monitors and FOH basic systems 2 way 3 way etc) Stage patch (thinking about both boards, Stage patch with stage snakes v direct run cables etc) Monitor engineer - house and whys about monitors and hook ups. FOH engineer - learning FOH patch of inserts etc.... mixing As far as getting me mixing I was Aloud to mix the first band on..... under supervision. usually the drum channels were the same as his but I had to bring up guitars and vocals...... and mix the band. Next given the 2 supports and had to learn to bring up drum channels..... I got my hands on the monitor board first and had 2 really good monitor guys teach me the phycology of monitor mixing. I found an engineer online to ask questions and give me advice almost a mentor. I had to achieve certain levels before I could move up. It was given to me structured from the beginning. I always knew what was next to learn. I knew I would be making tea and pushing boxes from the very beginning. and allot of the young kids coming through form Degree courses expect to be "engineers" as soon as they come out of uni. They think because they have a college degree they can walk in to the higher levels of employment like they do with other careers. They are however lacking in most of the major life lessons learned through working from the bottom. Even lacking in common sense. Coming into the job and being given the Pathway to getting my hands on a board was enough to make me hungry to learn. Instead of walking into the job and being slapped down and told I was not an engineer and had allot to learn, I was given the ladder to climb and told "you want to do this? This is how to be the best at what you do" The guys I was learning from had passion and even when we weren't working on the show would be talking shop. At first I didn't understand allot of it. but gradually understood more or would go home and look it up. I was given a link to PSW and told to search for things I didn't understand. Instead of handing it to me on a plate they gave me the tools to go look it all up. I kinda fall into the percentage where this was never just another job. I had been in work from 14 and knew I had to do something I loved. When I found It I had to go after it with total determination. and MAKE my job. I realised early on if you don't keep up you dont get the call back. Half measure don't cut it. Ok Ive rambled alot! hahah Kim x [/QUOTE]
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