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<blockquote data-quote="Eric Eskam" data-source="post: 75837" data-attributes="member: 2124">Re: Uli Behringer of The Music Group Q&amp;AI cringe when I hear &quot;experts&quot; pitching expensive, &quot;pro&quot; solutions as the only solution, or implying that if you don&#039;t do it the &quot;right&quot; way your an idiot or something.&nbsp; Not everyone has ample funding, and there are plenty of &quot;good enough&quot; solutions out there with well balanced risks and value.&nbsp; Yes, there is lots of stupid/cheap stuff that can cost more than it&#039;s worth - but I don&#039;t think that&#039;s what we are talking about here.&nbsp; If I had the money would I like an Avid, Midas Pro1 or a bigger fancier desk?&nbsp; Sure!&nbsp; But we don&#039;t.All products can have faults, and usually at the worst possible time.&nbsp; I think it&#039;s just as silly to assume that because you spent $10K, $20K or $100K on a piece of gear that it&#039;s some sort of ultimate guarantee.&nbsp; I do know that with the x32 I can pick up two for the price of other similar consoles and have a complete backup.&nbsp; Just like if our main analog console (a Crestwood if you must know) went this Sunday we would dive into the back to get the old analog Mackie out and get minimal sound going, I can swap out an X32 in the same way.&nbsp; And because it&#039;s digital and I can have copies of my scenes, I can get back to full functionality much quicker than with analog desks.I think it&#039;s far more important to have a viable backup plan that&#039;s well thought out, documented and practiced ahead of time with all of your team for when the inevitable happens - with ANY vendor - rather than having some virtual pissing contest about who&#039;s more reliable and therefore the better deal or better stewardship.Yes, if the x32 or any other gear showed signs of crapping out every other use or even more than once or twice a year then you might have a point - but it doesn&#039;t, nor do I think that most Behringer gear does.&nbsp; If all of their stuff was that bad it wouldn&#039;t sell as much as it does.&nbsp; I suspect you hear more about Behringer gear than other vendors probably because they sell proportionally more gear than most other vendors - and yes, that&#039;s due to price.&nbsp; I think I just saw a post from Christian in the main thread where he stated he has carted his X32 to over 80 gigs for almost a year now - with a pre-production model no less.&nbsp; Any attempt to gauge any vendors quality through non-scientfic samples such as support forums is ignorant and doomed to lead to faulty conclusions.If your that risk adverse or not so budget challenged, then by all means pick something else.&nbsp; But please don&#039;t throw cold water on the x32 or Behringer and imply it has no value for everyone - because I know the pro&#039;s and con&#039;s and I&#039;m more than willing to live with the product as it is.&nbsp; The bottom line - if I want to migrate to digital, it&#039;s the only option for us.&nbsp; Without Behringer for many things we simply wouldn&#039;t be able to do them - at all.&nbsp; Thank goodness there are vendors like them that are pushing the envelope and keeping things stirred up.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Eric Eskam, post: 75837, member: 2124"] Re: Uli Behringer of The Music Group Q&A I cringe when I hear "experts" pitching expensive, "pro" solutions as the only solution, or implying that if you don't do it the "right" way your an idiot or something. Not everyone has ample funding, and there are plenty of "good enough" solutions out there with well balanced risks and value. Yes, there is lots of stupid/cheap stuff that can cost more than it's worth - but I don't think that's what we are talking about here. If I had the money would I like an Avid, Midas Pro1 or a bigger fancier desk? Sure! But we don't. All products can have faults, and usually at the worst possible time. I think it's just as silly to assume that because you spent $10K, $20K or $100K on a piece of gear that it's some sort of ultimate guarantee. I do know that with the x32 I can pick up two for the price of other similar consoles and have a complete backup. Just like if our main analog console (a Crestwood if you must know) went this Sunday we would dive into the back to get the old analog Mackie out and get minimal sound going, I can swap out an X32 in the same way. And because it's digital and I can have copies of my scenes, I can get back to full functionality much quicker than with analog desks. I think it's far more important to have a viable backup plan that's well thought out, documented and [i]practiced[/i] ahead of time with all of your team for when the inevitable happens - with ANY vendor - rather than having some virtual pissing contest about who's more reliable and therefore the better deal or better stewardship. Yes, if the x32 or any other gear showed signs of crapping out every other use or even more than once or twice a year then you might have a point - but it doesn't, nor do I think that most Behringer gear does. If all of their stuff was that bad it wouldn't sell as much as it does. I suspect you hear more about Behringer gear than other vendors probably because they sell proportionally more gear than most other vendors - and yes, that's due to price. I think I just saw a post from Christian in the main thread where he stated he has carted his X32 to over 80 gigs for almost a year now - with a pre-production model no less. Any attempt to gauge any vendors quality through non-scientfic samples such as support forums is ignorant and doomed to lead to faulty conclusions. If your that risk adverse or not so budget challenged, then by all means pick something else. But please don't throw cold water on the x32 or Behringer and imply it has no value for everyone - because I know the pro's and con's and I'm more than willing to live with the product as it is. The bottom line - if I want to migrate to digital, it's the only option for us. Without Behringer for many things we simply wouldn't be able to do them - at all. Thank goodness there are vendors like them that are pushing the envelope and keeping things stirred up. [/QUOTE]

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