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<blockquote data-quote="dan le" data-source="post: 96711" data-attributes="member: 2470"><p>Re: Follow up on Inuke 12000 release date</p><p></p><p>Dear Uli:</p><p></p><p>I keep coming back to questions about converters.</p><p>First of all, I am glad that the FCA1616 will be finally available this month as well as the ADA 8200.</p><p>And all I have are 3 short and simple questions and again if you don't feel comfortable explaining it to us then it is OK. I understand.</p><p></p><p>1. everybody who makes the more expensive converters always hint at what they put before and after the converters, AD and DA to make them sound really good. The way they explain it, it costs a lot of money to make them that way ,i.e. the stuff besides the converters themselves. Is that true Uli?</p><p></p><p>2. Isn't it further true that while it might be a little more difficult to make a good AD converter, it is fairly easier or let's say much easier to make a good sounding DA converter. The reason I ask is that when listening to converters, the differences between the converters, I mean those built for studios, are very subtle. That's why last year Norman from Gearsluts had a shoot out mixing 16 channels of ADA8000 and mixing 16 channels with the Lynx stuff.</p><p>The result, a lot of people guessed wrong, and the Lynx cost much more than the ADA8000. I also listen to that shoot out with my big system, and can barely discern the differences. And this test involved 16 channels out, not just 1 stereo pair, so that if there is any mud built up, we surely would have known.</p><p>So the question boils down to: what do you put in the ANALOG section in and out of the converters, to make a converter sound good. Or are we have been grossly overcharged? Or that the type of converter chip is so important by itself.</p><p></p><p>3. you chose to use ArchWave for your driver, and other companies are struggling with their drivers. Why don't they use the DM1500 chip and ArchWave driver instead of trying to write their own drivers. And isn't it also true the Antelope folks are also using ArchWave chip and driver for their Orion 32? The more anybody has trouble with their drivers, the better RME look.</p><p></p><p>If you can somehow give us like a short white paper on this subject, and explain to us how a good converter should be built without costing an arm and leg, then it will put to rest all of the theories out there about converters and put this subject to rest once for all.</p><p></p><p>I thank you so much in advance Uli.</p><p></p><p>dan le</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dan le, post: 96711, member: 2470"] Re: Follow up on Inuke 12000 release date Dear Uli: I keep coming back to questions about converters. First of all, I am glad that the FCA1616 will be finally available this month as well as the ADA 8200. And all I have are 3 short and simple questions and again if you don't feel comfortable explaining it to us then it is OK. I understand. 1. everybody who makes the more expensive converters always hint at what they put before and after the converters, AD and DA to make them sound really good. The way they explain it, it costs a lot of money to make them that way ,i.e. the stuff besides the converters themselves. Is that true Uli? 2. Isn't it further true that while it might be a little more difficult to make a good AD converter, it is fairly easier or let's say much easier to make a good sounding DA converter. The reason I ask is that when listening to converters, the differences between the converters, I mean those built for studios, are very subtle. That's why last year Norman from Gearsluts had a shoot out mixing 16 channels of ADA8000 and mixing 16 channels with the Lynx stuff. The result, a lot of people guessed wrong, and the Lynx cost much more than the ADA8000. I also listen to that shoot out with my big system, and can barely discern the differences. And this test involved 16 channels out, not just 1 stereo pair, so that if there is any mud built up, we surely would have known. So the question boils down to: what do you put in the ANALOG section in and out of the converters, to make a converter sound good. Or are we have been grossly overcharged? Or that the type of converter chip is so important by itself. 3. you chose to use ArchWave for your driver, and other companies are struggling with their drivers. Why don't they use the DM1500 chip and ArchWave driver instead of trying to write their own drivers. And isn't it also true the Antelope folks are also using ArchWave chip and driver for their Orion 32? The more anybody has trouble with their drivers, the better RME look. If you can somehow give us like a short white paper on this subject, and explain to us how a good converter should be built without costing an arm and leg, then it will put to rest all of the theories out there about converters and put this subject to rest once for all. I thank you so much in advance Uli. dan le [/QUOTE]
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