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Upgrading our PA System - 12s or 15s, and are subs necessary?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mike Monte" data-source="post: 137270" data-attributes="member: 285"><p>Re: Upgrading our PA System - 12s or 15s, and are subs necessary?</p><p></p><p>My thoughts:</p><p>"........When we have our money ready, my bandmates and I will be going to stores and listening to the speakers we have in mind to really compare the sound and make an informed decision......."</p><p></p><p>I have gone to stores over the years to demo gear and to be truthful I feel that it was a waste of time for me. Does a music store's acoustics compare to a club/venue's? I liken visiting a music store to demo PA equipment to going to a large chain-store (pick one) to purchase a new television: you've got a whole wall of them to compare but one (or two) TV's pictures are clearly better than the rest....they MUST be better, right? Or, are the settings (contrast, brightness, etc.) on the other TV's adjusted to make the other sets less appealing....who's to know? I am no TV expert.</p><p></p><p>My advise would be to go to local club/venue performances and listen to what others are using. Maybe you should take a road trip to the closest major city for a weekend and visit some venues' performances. Try to pick venues with bands that have a similar style/instrumentation as your group. Give the gear a listen and decide for yourself...</p><p></p><p>I myself, settled on the speakers that I currently use by listening to several rigs (at performances) that sounded great. I did this over a period of years - I did not take a salesman's recommendation but rather I demo'd them "on the gig", gigs that I wanted to do! </p><p></p><p>FWIW: A little kick plus one OH for the drummer (just for texture) in the mix should be all that is needed for instruments in small-med club situations as long as the guitars/keys/bass play like a band, not individual ho-ha's. A couple of 12's would be fine IMO. One of the most successful bands I ever played in '85-'95 used 12" cabs on sticks with a powered mixer and one monitor. No one overplayed, the vocals were always "on top" (the guitarist did [at first] play rather loud. After a while the drummer and I started putting the guitarist's amp on a coffee table right behind his head - problem solved!) </p><p></p><p>If you find out what other bands in your area are using for PA gear (and like the results) if you purchase similar gear you may be able to cross-rent gear to supplement your rig for larger events.</p><p></p><p>Mike M</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mike Monte, post: 137270, member: 285"] Re: Upgrading our PA System - 12s or 15s, and are subs necessary? My thoughts: "........When we have our money ready, my bandmates and I will be going to stores and listening to the speakers we have in mind to really compare the sound and make an informed decision......." I have gone to stores over the years to demo gear and to be truthful I feel that it was a waste of time for me. Does a music store's acoustics compare to a club/venue's? I liken visiting a music store to demo PA equipment to going to a large chain-store (pick one) to purchase a new television: you've got a whole wall of them to compare but one (or two) TV's pictures are clearly better than the rest....they MUST be better, right? Or, are the settings (contrast, brightness, etc.) on the other TV's adjusted to make the other sets less appealing....who's to know? I am no TV expert. My advise would be to go to local club/venue performances and listen to what others are using. Maybe you should take a road trip to the closest major city for a weekend and visit some venues' performances. Try to pick venues with bands that have a similar style/instrumentation as your group. Give the gear a listen and decide for yourself... I myself, settled on the speakers that I currently use by listening to several rigs (at performances) that sounded great. I did this over a period of years - I did not take a salesman's recommendation but rather I demo'd them "on the gig", gigs that I wanted to do! FWIW: A little kick plus one OH for the drummer (just for texture) in the mix should be all that is needed for instruments in small-med club situations as long as the guitars/keys/bass play like a band, not individual ho-ha's. A couple of 12's would be fine IMO. One of the most successful bands I ever played in '85-'95 used 12" cabs on sticks with a powered mixer and one monitor. No one overplayed, the vocals were always "on top" (the guitarist did [at first] play rather loud. After a while the drummer and I started putting the guitarist's amp on a coffee table right behind his head - problem solved!) If you find out what other bands in your area are using for PA gear (and like the results) if you purchase similar gear you may be able to cross-rent gear to supplement your rig for larger events. Mike M [/QUOTE]
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