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<blockquote data-quote="Jack Arnott" data-source="post: 92314" data-attributes="member: 304"><p>Re: Vocal Levels - Ruth Moody</p><p></p><p>I don't do many regionals anymore. When I did I noticed more and more of what I call the "egalitarian mix". </p><p>Were everything is the same in level. And I am very much a vocals on top kind of guy. It bugged me. </p><p></p><p>One thing I blame is the fact that my PA sounds so good. As in, you can still hear everything when it is mixed that way. </p><p>In the old days, when everything was a combfilter battle, if the vocals were not right where they need to be, they would be unheard. </p><p></p><p>But, even then, I noticed what you are talking about. The sound man would be singing along, and the vocals were not where they need to be. </p><p></p><p>I have seen some of Evan's mixes on you tube of ATL, and the vocals there are some of the best I have heard on live video (read cell phone/small digital camera). One person even commented on how good his (photographer) camera sounded. It was the mix. </p><p></p><p>I have to work with my guys some to make sure the vocals stay out front. Especially with wispy vocaled female singers. </p><p>Sometimes its an exhausting fight, but the vocals have to be out there. If their will starts sagging I just boot them off the board and take over. </p><p></p><p>Regarding "help" from the audience. I consider myself to be there to serve 1) who hired me 2) if the band is not #1, then, the band, and 3) the audience. Maybe since I am not in bars anymore the bar is higher, but I usually listen to what comments come to me. I still have a BS filter, but don't have to use it as much as I used to. Sometimes I overlook things, and sometimes I just have a different seat than others. One woman about 80 years old came to me on a break a couple years ago wanting more flute. I did not have an optimum seat, and was perhaps guessing more than I should about its placement in the mix, and in my cans. I turned it up some. Later that night at dinner after the show, she hobbled all the way across the restaurant to thank me. Much better feeling than being an "arteest". </p><p></p><p>I do think its a blurry line between technical and feel. But we are in the service industry. </p><p>No-one goes home humming the reverb or the kick drum.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jack Arnott, post: 92314, member: 304"] Re: Vocal Levels - Ruth Moody I don't do many regionals anymore. When I did I noticed more and more of what I call the "egalitarian mix". Were everything is the same in level. And I am very much a vocals on top kind of guy. It bugged me. One thing I blame is the fact that my PA sounds so good. As in, you can still hear everything when it is mixed that way. In the old days, when everything was a combfilter battle, if the vocals were not right where they need to be, they would be unheard. But, even then, I noticed what you are talking about. The sound man would be singing along, and the vocals were not where they need to be. I have seen some of Evan's mixes on you tube of ATL, and the vocals there are some of the best I have heard on live video (read cell phone/small digital camera). One person even commented on how good his (photographer) camera sounded. It was the mix. I have to work with my guys some to make sure the vocals stay out front. Especially with wispy vocaled female singers. Sometimes its an exhausting fight, but the vocals have to be out there. If their will starts sagging I just boot them off the board and take over. Regarding "help" from the audience. I consider myself to be there to serve 1) who hired me 2) if the band is not #1, then, the band, and 3) the audience. Maybe since I am not in bars anymore the bar is higher, but I usually listen to what comments come to me. I still have a BS filter, but don't have to use it as much as I used to. Sometimes I overlook things, and sometimes I just have a different seat than others. One woman about 80 years old came to me on a break a couple years ago wanting more flute. I did not have an optimum seat, and was perhaps guessing more than I should about its placement in the mix, and in my cans. I turned it up some. Later that night at dinner after the show, she hobbled all the way across the restaurant to thank me. Much better feeling than being an "arteest". I do think its a blurry line between technical and feel. But we are in the service industry. No-one goes home humming the reverb or the kick drum. [/QUOTE]
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