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<blockquote data-quote="John Roberts" data-source="post: 35388" data-attributes="member: 126">Re: War Zone Hearing ProtectionYup, that might be tough in the field. The soft ones may be less painful but probably with less attenuation.To prevent hearing damage&nbsp; they should help.. I don&#039;t recall the military being very rigorous about hearing damage back in 1970... one time when they took us out to the rifle range to re-qulaify, I had to bum some cigarettes, tear off the filters, and stuff them into my ears as crude protection. While not like your noise, they doubled us up on the range points so we had M-16&#039;s in both directions only a couple feet away going through full clips in full R&amp;R to get it over with quickly (loudest noise I recall even with my makeshift plugs).========I read about one animal study that suggested anti-oxidant vitamins (A,C,E, etc) are protective against permanent hearing damage but I&#039;m not sure how they test the animals (do you hear me now, fido? ). Navy and marines have some high tech &quot;quiet pro&quot; earplugs with digital processing. <a href="http://www.hearingreview.com/issues/articles/HPR_2008-05_06.asp" target="_blank">http://www.hearingreview.com/issues/articles/HPR_2008-05_06.asp</a>I sure would want to hear everything up until the moment when the sh__ starts, then quiet is good...bit not permanent quiet.&nbsp; While $1400 each is a bit much... IMO at a minimum the guys on patrol and out on foot need to be able to hear everything around them clearly. Rear party, need protection from mortars, and IEDs, and perhaps the $10 combat arms plugs may be the play for general use. If yours are painful maybe you have an unusual sized ear canal? I find it hard to believe that one size fits all comfortably. Properly sized conventional plugs, that don&#039;t hurt and people actually wear, are better than any that they don&#039;t use, or can&#039;t get. Good luck, and take care of the whole unit, not just your ears, but take care of them too. There are jobs where ears are useful on the outside.JR</blockquote>

[QUOTE="John Roberts, post: 35388, member: 126"] Re: War Zone Hearing Protection Yup, that might be tough in the field. The soft ones may be less painful but probably with less attenuation. To prevent hearing damage they should help.. I don't recall the military being very rigorous about hearing damage back in 1970... one time when they took us out to the rifle range to re-qulaify, I had to bum some cigarettes, tear off the filters, and stuff them into my ears as crude protection. While not like your noise, they doubled us up on the range points so we had M-16's in both directions only a couple feet away going through full clips in full R&R to get it over with quickly (loudest noise I recall even with my makeshift plugs). ======== I read about one animal study that suggested anti-oxidant vitamins (A,C,E, etc) are protective against permanent hearing damage but I'm not sure how they test the animals (do you hear me now, fido? ). Navy and marines have some high tech "quiet pro" earplugs with digital processing. [url]http://www.hearingreview.com/issues/articles/HPR_2008-05_06.asp[/url] I sure would want to hear everything up until the moment when the sh__ starts, then quiet is good...bit not permanent quiet. While $1400 each is a bit much... IMO at a minimum the guys on patrol and out on foot need to be able to hear everything around them clearly. Rear party, need protection from mortars, and IEDs, and perhaps the $10 combat arms plugs may be the play for general use. If yours are painful maybe you have an unusual sized ear canal? I find it hard to believe that one size fits all comfortably. Properly sized conventional plugs, that don't hurt and people actually wear, are better than any that they don't use, or can't get. Good luck, and take care of the whole unit, not just your ears, but take care of them too. There are jobs where ears are useful on the outside. JR [/QUOTE]

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