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<blockquote data-quote="Arthur Skudra" data-source="post: 146806" data-attributes="member: 131"><p>Re: WFX Nashville Live Sound Int. Speaker Demo</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well if you read my response carefully, you will note that I did mention that the MLA and Anya "sound wonderful", specifically with "A" level acts, audience in the tens of thousands. Both indoors and outdoors, in challenging conditions. Maybe I should have been more emphatic and say it sounded "wahoo" "kewl" "awesome" etc?? But I could have said the same for a Meyer LEO or L'Acoustics K2, Danley Jericho, EAW QX, or other amazing products out there. Or maybe it was the really amazing FOH engineer who knew how to mix a show properly, and makes it sound golden no matter what speaker system was used.</p><p></p><p>That's all fine and dandy, but it was the unique challenges that made me say "wow" to both "steerable" line array rigs, such as purposely steering energy off a amphitheatre roof deck, or a rear wall, and hearing the readily apparent improvements in a matter of seconds. Or the incredible consistency in SPL level and frequency response from front seat in the orchestra section to the top row of the nosebleed seats, without having to use fill speakers as I would with other systems. Setup in minutes, not hours or days. Mind blowing considering how we had to do things in the "good old days"...</p><p></p><p>The only koolaid I'm referring to is Ivan's tagline "Physics, not fads". In no way am I disparaging the excellent products Danley makes. I kinda like the tagline because it's honest. But it seems you loosely use it in your posts in this thread when referring to a very brief encounter with steerable line arrays, hence why I think you have drunk the Danley koolaid! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> No worries, at some point in our careers we drink the koolaid, we just don't want to admit it!!! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> I'm kinda partial to oranges and strawberries!</p><p></p><p>I can't help but think you're asking the wrong questions, maybe making some assumptions here. It's not a simple matter of one sounding better than the other. Granted if you put a really good point source box next to a line array, it will be apparent that the two will sound different, is one better than the other? Who is to judge? My beef with shootouts is that it's really hard to have a objective evaluation of ALL the parameters involved. You're simply not comparing apples to apples, and never will. Furthermore, everyone will already be conditioned to the sound they are comfortable with, and that will definitely cloud one's judgement. Finally the environment is usually far from optimal.</p><p></p><p>So to answer your second question, if you compare a steerable line array to a conventional line array, if both are designed and deployed correctly and we are making a fair comparison in size, and suspend both arrays in exactly the same point in free space, the perceived difference will be barely perceptible. Whether the constructive and destructive interaction between devices is physical or electronic, it really makes little difference IMHO, except that you have more flexibility and capability with a steerable array. However, when you add some boundary surfaces, demanding producers, lighting and set designers, crazy musician ideas, budget limitations, SPL police, then all hell breaks loose! Then you start figuring out which is the right solution, and put to rest what you assumed you heard at the shootout. No one size fits all.</p><p></p><p>Now back to modelling a sound system solution for an arena....perhaps Anya will be the solution??? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arthur Skudra, post: 146806, member: 131"] Re: WFX Nashville Live Sound Int. Speaker Demo Well if you read my response carefully, you will note that I did mention that the MLA and Anya "sound wonderful", specifically with "A" level acts, audience in the tens of thousands. Both indoors and outdoors, in challenging conditions. Maybe I should have been more emphatic and say it sounded "wahoo" "kewl" "awesome" etc?? But I could have said the same for a Meyer LEO or L'Acoustics K2, Danley Jericho, EAW QX, or other amazing products out there. Or maybe it was the really amazing FOH engineer who knew how to mix a show properly, and makes it sound golden no matter what speaker system was used. That's all fine and dandy, but it was the unique challenges that made me say "wow" to both "steerable" line array rigs, such as purposely steering energy off a amphitheatre roof deck, or a rear wall, and hearing the readily apparent improvements in a matter of seconds. Or the incredible consistency in SPL level and frequency response from front seat in the orchestra section to the top row of the nosebleed seats, without having to use fill speakers as I would with other systems. Setup in minutes, not hours or days. Mind blowing considering how we had to do things in the "good old days"... The only koolaid I'm referring to is Ivan's tagline "Physics, not fads". In no way am I disparaging the excellent products Danley makes. I kinda like the tagline because it's honest. But it seems you loosely use it in your posts in this thread when referring to a very brief encounter with steerable line arrays, hence why I think you have drunk the Danley koolaid! :) No worries, at some point in our careers we drink the koolaid, we just don't want to admit it!!! :D I'm kinda partial to oranges and strawberries! I can't help but think you're asking the wrong questions, maybe making some assumptions here. It's not a simple matter of one sounding better than the other. Granted if you put a really good point source box next to a line array, it will be apparent that the two will sound different, is one better than the other? Who is to judge? My beef with shootouts is that it's really hard to have a objective evaluation of ALL the parameters involved. You're simply not comparing apples to apples, and never will. Furthermore, everyone will already be conditioned to the sound they are comfortable with, and that will definitely cloud one's judgement. Finally the environment is usually far from optimal. So to answer your second question, if you compare a steerable line array to a conventional line array, if both are designed and deployed correctly and we are making a fair comparison in size, and suspend both arrays in exactly the same point in free space, the perceived difference will be barely perceptible. Whether the constructive and destructive interaction between devices is physical or electronic, it really makes little difference IMHO, except that you have more flexibility and capability with a steerable array. However, when you add some boundary surfaces, demanding producers, lighting and set designers, crazy musician ideas, budget limitations, SPL police, then all hell breaks loose! Then you start figuring out which is the right solution, and put to rest what you assumed you heard at the shootout. No one size fits all. Now back to modelling a sound system solution for an arena....perhaps Anya will be the solution??? :) [/QUOTE]
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